TooTallMike Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Also try the Federation of Historic British Vehicle Clubs (FHBVC) as they are very active on the legislation front and will know the ins and outs of this new 'limit'. - Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Isn't the MVT affiliated to the HBHVC?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Neil, I registered my Sherman at the Ipswich office last month, no problems at all. It is registered as 'special purpose' body and a 'non standard' wheelplan. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Isn't the MVT affiliated to the HBHVC?? Yes, as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 A Sherman is a tracked vehicle and therefore mot exempt and is presumably allowed a much greater width allowance under 'Construction and Use Regulations'. Was there any advantage in registering the way you have because I am about to register my carrier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 The OT-90 is fully tracked as well - thus far no allowance has been made for it on that basis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 My mistake I thought we were talking about a multi-wheeled AFV. It will be interesting to see what Adrian says but I would have thought that tracked vehicles as in bulldozers etc would have been allowed greater width. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I don't know about width limits but that big JCB tracked tractor at the Bunker Bash was registered as an agricultural tractor and is well over the 2.55m 'limit'. See this link for the (impressive) spec. of the MT800B: http://www.challenger-ag.com/agco/Challenger/ChallengerUK/TrackedTractors/700800.htm I know I didn't spell it out, but what I was getting at with this is that it might be worth talking to Caterpillar UK or a farmer who operates one of these (eg. the Essex Bunker owners) and ask for a photocopy or details of a V5. You then go to the DVLA and tell them it's a similar vehicle. - Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Thats a thought Mike. Had a reply from the MVT already - they are putting some stuff in the post to me. Should be interesting to see where that leads to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Neil, I registered my Sherman at the Ipswich office last month, no problems at all. It is registered as 'special purpose' body and a 'non standard' wheelplan. Adrian Thanks Adrian - just checked the V55/5 that I was sent and the "Body Type" & "Wheelplan" field both say "Tracked" right now - think I need to get another copy of the form and start over!!! How wide is the Sherman??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Neil, the Sherman is 2.67 wide. I can't remember if the V55/5 has a box for width or not. If so, I will have filled it in correctly. As an aside, I don't want to be the example of '' you registered this last month'' in case they de-register me! Probably cannot now but I'm not sure I want to risk it.... I think your problems have come from a lack of understanding by the DVLA staff. I would try another office. Out of interest, what year is the OT-90? Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Neil, the Sherman is 2.67 wide. I can't remember if the V55/5 has a box for width or not. If so, I will have filled it in correctly. As an aside, I don't want to be the example of '' you registered this last month'' in case they de-register me! Probably cannot now but I'm not sure I want to risk it.... I think your problems have come from a lack of understanding by the DVLA staff. I would try another office. Out of interest, what year is the OT-90? Adrian Adrian - box #19 on the V55/5 is the vehicle width. OT is 2.95m wide - if I strip off the top shrouds over the tracks I could probably get the width down to 2.75, Still over the top though and may cause issues if measured later on. Fear not - Ipswich might be a bit far to go in that some one might ask why I've gone there when I live in Dagenham... When I try another office though it might be useful to point out in general terms a 2.6m + width vehicle went through another office recently...... First of all I've got to wait for the Post Office to deliver my new insurance certificates - been 5 days already for a first class delivery!! According to Russian Military it dates from 1980 so I've got to pay tax on it - which I don't mind as it would only be for 6 months of the year. If only they would let me do it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Getting to be a case of infamy, infamy, they have all got it infamy for me! Does seem to be the current craze, change rules but don't tell anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Getting to be a case of infamy, infamy, they have all got it infamy for me! Does seem to be the current craze, change rules but don't tell anyone. You can be Kenneth Williams if you want - but I want Fenella Fielding - she'd look oh so good reclining in the troop compartment!!!! Carry on Screaming is still my all time favourite... He says veering massively off-topic!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowtracdave Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Ah - Nostalgia.....not wishing to be un diplomatic but i suspect she may not look quite so good these days . :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 We'll have to go raiding Markheliop's workshop then, guys.:cool2: Actually 'What a carry on' just about covers the subject! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) Ah - Nostalgia.....not wishing to be un diplomatic but i suspect she may not look quite so good these days . :-D Thats OK - neither do I!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Edited May 24, 2008 by ArtistsRifles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 (edited) Good luck with registering your OT-90, I'm sure you'll find a way. I've stuck these 'photos up here because a few of us, me included, weren't really sure what sort of MV you've all been talking about. Edited May 24, 2008 by 6 X 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisu Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 In another topic we were talking about Russian vehicles. Many of them are wider than 2,55 - for example Kraz and the huge Maz. It sounds crazy armies are using them on the road, but you can't register them! I'm quite sure you don't do too many miles with your OT-90 (which by the way, is extreme, crazy machine - and I love it!). Why isn't there a special class for special construction vehicles, like ex-military? If I ever win a lottery, I buy myself Maz for towing tracked vehicles - width is only 3 meters, own mass 24000kg, 100-200 L/100km consumption... Russians are damn crazy! And you are crazy as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 If any of us were sane - would we be here on this forum???? This is my little beastie - hull #151: Still trying to get hold of a deac KVPT to fill out the canvas mantlet cover.... And the pioneer tools for the external hull mounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Neil, if you had bought my M75 instead, you would have had none of these problems! Rubber pads already fitted, road registered too....... and all for a lot less money! Sorry, not trying to make you feel bad..... Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazz Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Seeing these pics brings back memories of many hours spent doing AFV recognition and gunnery in Ref to 30mm shooting, as this type of veh was the main tgt that we would be using the Rarden against. Heard and given many fire orders in ref to "APC in open/on ridge". Bazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Why does the width issue come up? Who is letting on to who about the width? If the width is never mentioned by the owner, how do the DVLA pick up on it. We registered a Scammell Explorer for the first time last August, and the width of it never came into question. If you start volunteering information that isn't requested you are making trouble for youselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Why does the width issue come up? Who is letting on to who about the width? If the width is never mentioned by the owner, how do the DVLA pick up on it. We registered a Scammell Explorer for the first time last August, and the width of it never came into question. If you start volunteering information that isn't requested you are making trouble for youselves. But what happns when they come to inspect it :??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 They only inspect to verify chassis and engine number. Even then, they don't always inspect even if they say they need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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