N.O.S. Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I believe I saw them advertised last/this year through Witham's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 This one is in the RE section at Chatham Dockyard ! Thanks ! That would be one of the rigs we used to repair. It had a Bedford 500 under the cab, and very little room to work on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Thanks ! That would be one of the rigs we used to repair. It had a Bedford 500 under the cab, and very little room to work on it Did you have much trouble with the 500 Richard? We had one, never again, took it out and threw it away, strangely the Leyland 500 was another load of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Did you have much trouble with the 500 Richard? We had one, never again, took it out and threw it away, strangely the Leyland 500 was another load of crap. Degsy, Now you mention it, I had to lift the cab off one of these boring rigs, but do not recollect what the problem was, could have been a head gasket. There were only a few of them, it was a normal aspirated 500. Edited December 10, 2008 by Richard Farrant reply to Degsy....not Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 [Tony, Now you mention it, I had to lift the cab off one of these boring rigs, but do not recollect what the problem was, could have been a head gasket. There were only a few of them, it was a normal aspirated 500. I'm not talking to you again:n00b: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 I'm not talking to you again:n00b: Sorry Degsy :confused::confused::confused:......... getting tired, must sign off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Likewise . Night night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 The Season's Greetings to all AEC Owners and Enthusiasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Another Vass conversion on a MK 1 Milly this one with a Harvey Frost Atlas12 crane, Vass were agents for Harvey Frost and on a visit to the yard long ago i was given one of the plates they fitted to their conversions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Daymond Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 looks like a nice bit of kit. Whilst on the subject 6x6, do you, or any other members, have any ground anchors, as pictured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 I know someone who just got 6 brand new ones in a parcel from Witham. Have Pm'd you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Dave Crouch has a shed load of Ground Anchors.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Daymond Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 they're like buses, wait years for some, than a shed load comes along at once (mind this was the first time I actually asked, they weren't really the most pressing of problems prior) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 we bought four but they are a tad too big to fit into the Explorer carrying brackets. They only need about 1/4" shaved off so no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 we bought four but they are a tad too big to fit into the Explorer carrying brackets. They only need about 1/4" shaved off so no problem. Presumably a MK 2 scotch, didn't fit in mine either, had to grind the bit where the pin goes and cut a bit out of the support angle iron thingy, made me wonder if there was one for trial fitting at Scammells place! Sadly this has made me look at others and there are a lot of variations about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 It matched exactly one that an Explorer owner said fitted his stowage space. When we got it back and tried it it didn't fit ours, so we asked the bloke we borrowed the pattern from, and he couldn't get his one to fit his Scammell. It transpires that Allsops of Ashby had rebuilt the body of his Scammell, covering over the stowage with a skirt. He then subsequently cut of the bottom of the skirt they had made, exposing the stowage, but decided he'd keep the scotches in the back were Allsop's kept them, and it was a trick of memory that he had actually fitted them for a while, under the body. Everyone Crouch had was the same size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Mllitant in Cuthbertsons Yard Biggar 1990 ! Thanks to Ken for allowing me to post ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 A clip of a militant ? mk ? doing a bit of recovery work with a Catapillar for an anchor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 A clip of a militant ? mk ? doing a bit of recovery work with a Catapillar for an anchor Great video! Thats a Mk3 Militant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 great video just shows wot can be done with a slow winch a good anchor and a couple of snach blocks :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 yes indeed , didnt seem to strain at all pulling the crane sideways with a drag line bucket full of muck to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 (edited) Why didn't they sit the (mark3) Militant over the bank, next to the dozer with it`s anchor dug into the bank, facing the RB and take the first line of the pull down to the RB, round a snatch block and back to the Dozer, etc. As they have rigged it, the Dozer is taking an unecessary return on the rope, meaning it has to work harder as an anchor, and there are greater frictional losses in an un-neceassary snatch block? Ok they got it out but was it the best way? Edited December 26, 2008 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Why didn't they sit the (mark3) Militant over the bank, next to the dozer with it`s anchor dug into the bank, facing the RB and take the first line of the pull down to the RB, round a snatch block and back to the Dozer, etc. As they have rigged it, the Dozer is taking an unecessary return on the rope, meaning it has to work harder as an anchor, and there are greater frictional losses in an un-neceassary snatch block? Ok they got it out but was it the best way? It probably was the best way. You should never put the recovery vehicle in a situation that it requires recovering itself. The bank where the dozer went over looked like it could have been a ditch or dyke the other side. He would have better traction to extract himself. If the AEC had gone over the bank, once the earth anchor was deployed, he would have to move forward to lift it and without doubt have to rely on winching himself over the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 (edited) So why not turn the Milly round, leave it the RB sde of the bank, and have the first line of the pull going to the RB. Thence via a pulley system to the Dozer. I just cant see why the first pull goes to a snatch block on the dozer to change the direction of pull back to the RB. Why not ditch the first snatch block and go straight to the RB as the first line? This just increases the load on the Dozer anchor, whithout inceasing the pull on the RB and leads to unwanted frictional losses.... Edited December 26, 2008 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 It probably was the best way. You should never put the recovery vehicle in a situation that it requires recovering itself. The bank where the dozer went over looked like it could have been a ditch or dyke the other side. He would have better traction to extract himself. If the AEC had gone over the bank, once the earth anchor was deployed, he would have to move forward to lift it and without doubt have to rely on winching himself over the bank. But should you take it over the bank alongside the Dozer if it got stuck self recovery is a piece of pizz cos you would have the winch rope aleady out to the rear and a suitable anchor point, namely the RB. It would be no risk to get the Milly over the bank, because it is so easy to self-recover from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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