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Hi Cedric, it should give impressive truck/trailer off road performance when you've restored the system, a very interesting concept, can't wait to see it on the off-road course at W&P show. Thanks for the very detailed descriptions, it's got everything, axle articulation and walking beams!

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I think there was one of those trucks on milweb a couple of months back. Oh if u do decide to go round the off road course let me know n i'll get my camera out as im in the the club that runs the off road course. Btw that truc is awesome

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There's been one seller who advertises he has one such truck, but all the photos are stolen from the internet (I can tell who are the owners). Not sure if we are talking about the same seller?

 

I will definately go through the off-road course ;) But I'm not sure if I'm bringing my trailer with me as I should have some storage in UK for it, otherwise the two-way channel crossings kill my budget! Keep the camera ready in case I crash!

 

I will likely put one of my AH-45 trucks for sale soon, its fully working and drivable unit, can be driven to anywhere - I need more space for my new purchase, the Jyry-Sisu. I have right now 10 vehicles of different type and thats too much. I'm not sure whether to use Milweb or what?

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Cedric, thanks for all this interesting background info. You surely are a man with a mission. Keep those Sisu´s rolling!

 

I'm not sure whether to use Milweb or what?
MilWeb gives great coverage. Reportedly, the best on the internet. Your ad will be printed in Classic Military Vehicles magazine too.

 

Hanno

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I've had some problems while rearranging my photos on the web-server, but anyway - here's the current status of the project. Its been quite a task removing all the heavy parts alone with no crane (except a small engine hoist), sometimes using 2 meter long tools to open those tight bolts. I still have to disassemble the axles, as I want to powder coat everything in separate parts (incl. frame), and then put it back together. I removed the 165bhp Leyland O.410 turbo-diesel and will fit a 235bhp Valmet 611 turbo-diesel with intercooler. Thats a bolt-on fitment, except those cables, exhaust etc. but I deal with them later...

 

 

From this...

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...too rusty to save, so I'm building a new one...

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Rubbish...:

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Had to lower the front axle to the ground, otherwise there was no chance to use my engine hoist to lift the engine over the frame:

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2 cm marginal, but i got it over...:

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To show what they look before restoration, I took one of the other trucks for quick ride after fixing the clutch cylinder.

 

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There's a problem with the right rear spring, it has be reworked a bit...:

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Here's the 3rd one I have:

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The 3rd one has the front bumper inside my garage, just so that no-one can use a bar to tow it away (brakes are free'd):

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Here's the "new" Valmet 611 I'm putting in. It has only 220k kilometers, but I completely rebuilt it last year, so its practically a new engine. I'm likely installing a newer generation Holset turbocharger and with screwing the injection pump I should easily get 300bhp.

 

Still have to paint it...

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Here's the cabin, which I cut in half - and will build a completely new one. Just like the engineering of these trucks, everything was designed to be easily replaced or rebuild from scratch.

 

Floor...:

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...and the rest:

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Already made a new floor, now waiting some steel materials to arrive... All new parts are used everywhere:

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Thats the lowermost floor section upside down before finishing:

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NOS, no I'm still here... :( Plans haven't changed but I still haven't found any apartment/garage from UK (I haven't been active) - and I haven't had a chance to make the trip due my mother's condition (she needs constant help as her sickness is getting to worse direction). I'm doing my best to get the Sisu back on its wheels at the moment, and have planned a trip to UK on 1.8.2008 - 14.8.2008.

 

Unfortunately due the mentioned reason I'm unable to come to the forthcoming military shows :(

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Thanks, its only a question of time. Anyway, I'm really looking forward on moving away from here, I'm practically now living at the garage to finish all my projects and same time taking care of my mother. Its not the optimal situation but there aren't many options...

 

The Sisu must be finished during this year, it should appear in a new Military Vehicle's book and the closing date is the end of the year.

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Thanks, Andy! As long as the projects are going ahead I'm ok... :)

 

Here's couple of shots of the axles, I postponed the disassembly till tomorrow knowing it will be a lot of sweat, cursing and broken tools...

 

The axles are build by Sisu and have planetary gears. These axles are known to be "bullet proof", and actually what I'm doing is most likely unnecessary. But I thought as I'm already at this point I should at least change the bearings, just in case. All steering joints will be replaced as well.

 

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Yep, thats right :) I checked the wheel after lowering the full weight on them and no change, they're still "perfect" :)

 

After 1-2 weeks I'll be posting lot more pictures when I'll have here all the required steel material to create a brand new cabin and bed. Hopefully before that all the axles are disassembled, as after I get the steel its a cutting/welding/drilling marathon (especially hate the drilling part!).

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If you have lots of drilling to do There is a nifty device to help keep those bits as sharp as new , not sure if its sold in Europe it's called "the Drill Doctor" its a enclosed grinding wheel with a bit holder that postions the bit in the correct angle to sharpen the bits properly . Just a thought , I wanted to pass along . I dont have any connection with them

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Yes, I would need something like that. I've noticed there's a great difference between cheap and expensive drills. It takes about three times the time to drill a hole in metal with a cheap one. I throw the cheap ones away once they loose their sharpness, but I've kept the quality ones for future sharpning.

 

I'm sure we have something like Drill Doctor available here... For the cabin I have to make several hundred holes because all the panels are installed with pop-rivets... Of course all holes must be perfectly positioned...

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For the cabin I have to make several hundred holes because all the panels are installed with pop-rivets... Of course all holes must be perfectly positioned...

 

These are brilliant for positioning panels while you drill the rest of the holes, then remove to clear swarf / burrs before final fitting.

 

http://www.skinpins.com/fastmotemp.html

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For the cabin I have to make several hundred holes because all the panels are installed with pop-rivets... Of course all holes must be perfectly positioned...

 

 

Have a look at one of these hole punches on ebay: 370067170053

Each punch has a small point that locates in your centre pop mark and the shearing action produces a perfect round hole with a work hardened edge that is ideal to use as a drill guide for the frame or second panel.

 

Are you working in steel or aluminium, and have you considered the corrosive effect if the two are in contact? (Land Rover didn't):-D

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If you have lots of drilling to do There is a nifty device to help keep those bits as sharp as new , not sure if its sold in Europe it's called "the Drill Doctor" its a enclosed grinding wheel with a bit holder that postions the bit in the correct angle to sharpen the bits properly . Just a thought , I wanted to pass along . I dont have any connection with them

 

I must say this device is a lazy way to sharpen drills - you can get the same result by hand and a grinding wheel if you have a reasonable amount of skill, a lot of patience and good eyesight.

 

So I bought a Drill Doctor last year :-D

 

Check out "drilldoctor" on the web thingy, note the benefit of the newer models (DD500X and DD750X), and then contact www.international-tool.co.uk for the best price. I spent days tracking down this decent supplier for the latest models.

 

The biggest, DD750X will cope with 3/32" bits up to 3/4".

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You guys know Cleco's? They are excellent for holding panels while drilling other holes, they are like Skinpins, I think? Another but cheaper alternative is to temporarely fix a panel with few aluminium pop-rivets.

 

In my case I could use a punch to make the holes on the sheet metal, actually a good idea! But the holes on the steel profile (40x40x3mm and 40x20x3mm) I still have to make myself (thank God not through the whole profile!). It was a good idea to bring up the topic about sharpening drill bits, actually something I've post-poned until now... I will look the options and buy a model that requires the smallest brain & wallet.

 

Some photos of yesterdays "achievements". Again was a major job working alone with only one jack and an engine crane, but eventually I managed not to kill myself and remove the axles (usually I end up in a hospital)... I have loads of tools for such tasks, but they are in my other (small) garage in Finland.

 

So... Thats the starting point:

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All U-bolts had to be cut out, no chance to open them even with a 2 meter wrench...

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Accidental hit from the cutting disc and Voila! The shock absorber cleaned the area with oil...

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To my surprise no problem lifting the frame up and then some acrobatics later I had the axle sitting on the floor, watching me with the evil eye...:

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I was really surprised to see how good condition the brakes are! They are almost like new and really over-spec'd for this truck. Never heard anyone having bad brakes in Sisu A/AH-45 and really they could be in a truck double the size:

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Front required bit more frame lifting...:

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The front axle must weight two times the rear axle!

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Finally got it out and now its on the floor waiting for complete disassembly:

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Thats almost it! I have to drill some holes for the new hydraulic gear and then its going for sand blasting...:

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