Smoke Discharger Alert

[Marmite!!]

In my eyes, anything that is a "replica", is something that is an exact copy of an object, in all ways. Whereas, if one of these dischargers were to be cast as a lump in alloy for instance, with no hollow tube, then it would be a dummy and be of no use or threat at all. In fact a dummy would be be just as inert as a deactivated one.

 

But if it Looks like the real thing it is then classed as a RIF under the VCR Act 2006

[Richard Farrant]

But if it Looks like the real thing it is then classed as a RIF under the VCR Act 2006

 

Fair enough...but a deactivated one would "look" like the real thing. The law are less likely to have a fit over a dummy discharger, than one that is still intact.

[Marmite!!]

Fair enough...but a deactivated one would "look" like the real thing. The law are less likely to have a fit over a dummy discharger, than one that is still intact.

 

Yes but deactivated weapons are no affected by the VCR act, imitation ones are :roll:

[Tony B]

No, deactivated weapons will still be legal. It is the usual half assed badly drafted badly, if any, thought out legislation. Paint the things blue, all excersise kit seems to be blue. Which leads to the stupid question if you painted a live weapon blue would the great unwashed think think 'Oh, it's a toy because it's blue. right up to the time they were shot?

[Greenjacket]

As has been advised on other forums before these questions and answers are best left out of the public domain.

[Marmite!!]

As has been advised on other forums before these questions and answers are best left out of the public domain.

 

 

Disagree with you on this one Les... if someone was talking about about reactivating a weapon it would be pulled straight away as it has been done in the past...

 

The forum is here to inform people of all aspects of the hobby, info like this is especially helpful to those just entering the hobby, last thing we want is someone sticking some sort of pyro down th tube & getting their name in the paper because they didn't know the law regarding these..

 

It's up to the individual on how to interpret the advice given on here, if in doubt contact your local FAO for advice as we have done in the past...

[xtreme]

not clear on this but would putting a pyro in the tube be illegal . also if dummy smoke dischargers are fitted and your a member of a reactant group does that satisfy the vcr act

[griff66]

smoke dischargers are legal discussed at acpo level all ok.

[steveo578]

griff66

smoke dischargers are legal

 

Have you got a reference for that?

 

I was under the impression that the standard 66mm Smoke bomb discharger various designations Peek 66mm No1- No21 and Peek 22, 76, FVG66 etc are classed as fire-arms under FAA being a device capable of propelling a projectile by explosive means. They throw smoke grenade No5 -but could also throw a No15 WP, CS or fragmentation grenade if there was a need. The propellant is Electric Fuze- although some later ones have a electrically fired firing pin system (but whether this is current on british models I'm unsure) it has a range of about 75 metres.

 

I have been told that original 66mm dischargers fitted to the majority of British AFVs have to be DE-ACed by drilling through the lower barrel beneath the receptical for the electric fuze pellet (and possibly blocking the barrel to prevent insertion of a grenade).

 

Obviously other smoke dischargers such as the wartime 2inch smoke discharger is a 50 mortar and the 4inch discharger is a very short SMLE rifle and would have to comform to DE-AC.

 

The only type of smoke emiter that would not require DE-AC would be the box style fitted to Sherman Cromwell and Churchill -even then a smoke grenade wouldn't be allowed.

 

Steve

Edited November 19, 2010 by steveo578
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[griff66]

if u want to pm me can help u out with reference