ARTBYDAVID Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I recently finished a Pencil Sketch of a Landrover. The image is a civilian one, but I wanted to add a Military one to go with it. My project is to produce Prints of the Images and have the option of adding a personal number plate to each print. Id there a military Landrover that would have this sort of appeal? I am most welcome to any advice or suggestions. Obviously accuracy and military knowledge is essential, so please do voice your opinions. This is an image of the already finished civilian Landrover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 David your drawings are absolutely superb. From time to time I have seen drawings/sketches of Land Rovers of their various kinds but although they convey the general feel of the vehicle they often don't quite make it with the proportions. No such shortcomings with yours. To my mind the Lightweight (1/2 Ton) Rover is the most iconic military Land Rover. There are many good examples around to base a drawing on, but I would suggest a drawing that is fairly minimalist in terms of markings & other embellishments. Owners often (& indeed are entitled to) get carried away with additional stuff on their vehicle & would indeed be very happy to see this on a drawing of their vehicle. But what might be felt by an owner to be "looking the business" may make another owner cringe with embarrassment. So might I suggest a drawing is based on a vehicle without much in the way of markings that more or less any owner would be happy to see their particular registration on it. Even owners of vehicles with many adornments could appreciate that at least in the early days of service even their particular vehicle would have looked like that. So I think the less stuff & markings will greatly increase the appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTBYDAVID Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hi Clive, Thank you for the advice which I can understand and relate to. With the civilian Landrover being in pencil it has increased the appeal (hopefully) in that there is no restriction with colour. So a Military subject based on a basic model before customisation by the owners does make a lot of sense. Thank you again. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 David being from an Arty profession I have to applaud your pencil skills and touch. I concur with Clive's comments on particular imagery and content. However. Perhaps you could do client specific ones under private commission. Such a picture would make a lovely present indeed. You have most definitely captured the charisma and personality of a SIII 88" Great work. Well done! Keep us posted on your progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTBYDAVID Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hi Wayne, Thank you for your advice. I also checked out your website links, and there's some nice work on the Gallery site. I also see that you aren't a million miles from here, and we do have friends in Hereford. I don't know if you are interested in having a look at my website, and again advice and comments are always welcome. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTBYDAVID Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Wayne, Forgot the address, sorry. http://www.david-walker.org.uk David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I really like your work, David. I agree with Clive on the accessories and markings too - it's almost funny when you see in service pictures and think that they look a little strange, until you realise that it's because there isn't 500 kg of stuff hanging off the vehicle. I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but the worst offenders seem to be Ferret owners For me, the military Land Rover will always be the Series 3 with a canvas top and a bull bar, or maybe the Australian 6wd Perentie. You'd probably find that a sketch of the Ferret or Saladin would be quite popular too. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Wayne, Forgot the address, sorry. http://www.david-walker.org.uk David David I am the architect. The wife owns the gallery and framers near Ross-on-Wye. I will take a look at your site with interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The 1/2 ton lightweight and the 101 1 ton Forward control are 'Military Land Rovers'; the rest are just civillian vehicles with pretensions! The 101 gives you a whole series of vehicles to depict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 the rest are just civillian vehicles with pretensions! Oh dear TonyB Making those kind of suggestions can land a man in trouble, or at worst suggest that the FVRDE dressed up a Landy off the Street. Having owned and maintained many civi and specialised old Landies, they were most definitely not dressed up town vehicles. :mad: :wow::shocked::nono: Indeed the origins of the 1/2 ton and a lot of its working parts are directly from the evolution of the pretentious SI & S11's 1/4 tons 88" Sorry mate but you pricked a nerve! I know what you are attempting to say though Grrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Hi The sketch you show is fine , however IMHO the "Defender" door hinge mounted mirrors are cringeworthy , just trying to be constructive. As Clive describes - there are all types of owner & degree of rivet-counter LoL A S3 civvy 88" that it seems to represent would in fact not normally have the de-luxe bonnet (very few took up the "Optional Extra" ) , however it could easy be converted to a Military 88" S3 CL (commercial logistics) because the bonnet would be correct.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecyMech Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I personally think the idea of having a personalised piece of art, of this standard, depicting your own vehicle is a superb idea. When I joined up in the early 70s a fellow recruit (handy with a pencil) did a pencil sketch of my Champ (which I owned at the time & had learned to drive in & passed my driving test in). That sketch went to Northern Ireland with me....much mickey taking from the Troop who mostly had pics of Debbie Harry over the bed while I had a pencil sketch of a Champ. The drawing eventually wore out after many moves. Although not an MV owner now, I'd certainly buy something like this (Champ obviously, with my civy reg EFD806K) & have it framed. Or even the Leyland Martian & Cent ARV I worked (48BM14 & 03ZR59). I think its an outstanding idea. H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I'd like the personalized version too. Not being at all artistic I am making the big assumption you could start out with a base sketch of -say - an 109 soft top and add the bonnet mounted spare, wing boxes and side mounts for an FFR as well as the front bumperettes and bridging plate??? Maybe if supplied with a front 3/4 view by an owner you could modify such a base sketch to replicate the actual vehicle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTBYDAVID Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Thank you to all of the replies so far. They are all very constructive. Unfortunately with regard the idea of having a base drawing and altering it accordingly is great in principle but not practical and not possible. I understand that most owners will want to personalise their own vehicles. Once the drawing is completed it is difficult to change anything without spoiling the original drawing or damage the paper after several attempts to rub out certain areas and add new ones. The joys of traditional artwork compared to computer generated. I first began drawing and painting military vehicles in my last year of Art College, after a keen interest in plastic kits as a boy. I guess I moved my eye for detail from plastic onto paper or canvas. Most of the early images were in watercolour, where as now the colour ones tend to be more Oil, and obviously pencil for the black and white. If there was enough demand for Military vehicles I would gladly paint and draw them every week. Here's hoping! I will certainly look at other vehicles, but at this stage I am looking for another model to go with the existing civilian Landrover, as that is already finished and ready yo go to print. It is an accurate copy of an existing Landrover. So please do keep the advice and opinions coming. I look forward to reading them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 David, Are you able to give some indications of cost and approximate turnaround times for commissioned pieces and prints? I'd be interested in getting one done of my Saracen, once I pretty her up a bit. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTBYDAVID Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 David, Are you able to give some indications of cost and approximate turnaround times for commissioned pieces and prints? I'd be interested in getting one done of my Saracen, once I pretty her up a bit. Cheers, Terry Hi Terry, Thank you for your enquiry. Obviously each job depends on content and detail within the image. The Jeep that I posted recently was 16.5" x 11.5" and would be in the region of £200. A smaller image wouldn't effect the price as it is more content, the amount of detail within the image. A Watercolour or Oil would be dearer, more in the region of £300. If you would like to have a look at some other work on my website, in the Military Gallery, please do http://www.david-walker.org.uk Turn around time will depend upon what work I have on at the time of the order, but usually within a week to two weeks at the most for pencil and a bit longer for watercolour or Oil. My terms are a deposit in advance and full payment upon completion. All work is guaranteed to the highest standard. If you would like to discuss anything further please feel free to give me a call on 01691 682169 I look forward to speaking further. Kind Regards, David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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