Willyslancs Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 looks like it has a boom and a 5th wheel , what is it please ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon_M Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Federal 600 series Someone will confirm the exact series, maybe a second series 604 or whatever as I know the curved end to the boom is one identifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 HI could be a truck tractor wrecking type C2 seven half ton 6x6 4 DT FEDERAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon_M Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think the curved boom is the identifier, but the same standard truck may have been made by others too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Early Federal 606 with fixed boom.. The later builds had straight, extendable but slightly lower capacity booms. Excuse for a gratuitous advert :banana: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon_M Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Worth knowing. I always thought the curved boom was later but now I know. Seems to be the one truck type that didn't get the draughty open cab too. I know with that wrecker setup it wouldn't have lowered the height,but then they went open cab on other trucks with fixed body heights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 As Tony says an early Federal type C-2 but being the early model means it is a 605, the C-2 type was also built by Biederman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 As Tony says an early Federal type C-2 but being the early model means it is a 605, the C-2 type was also built by Biederman. That's according to Bart Vanderveen?? But the Jan 1942 PRELIMINARY HANDBOOK OF INSTRUCTIONS (written by the contractors, not Air Corps) for the TYPE C-2 WRECKING TRUCK TRACTOR and (which was later adopted as the USAAF Technical Order for this vehicle) clearly describes and identifies a Federal 606 with the curved boom. That's not to say Vanderveen is not right - he states there existed a 605 which had the curved boom - but as in this case we run the risk of joining his stated facts up and assuming there is no variant in between (early 606 with curved boom). :cool2: Does anyone know anything else about the 605? For example Vanderveen describes the 606 as having a 110V generator in the crane tower - as if to suggest the 605 did not have this feature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I have allways said l do not know much about american trucks but in the TM 9- 2800 DATED 1947 page 346 is a FEDERAL TYPE C2 like the one in NOS post down to the curved wings it states amongst other things fitted with 110 volt DC electric power plant 3000 watts this might mean nothing may be a differant type but does have the curved boom and a picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 That's according to Bart Vanderveen??But the Jan 1942 PRELIMINARY HANDBOOK OF INSTRUCTIONS (written by the contractors, not Air Corps) for the TYPE C-2 WRECKING TRUCK TRACTOR and (which was later adopted as the USAAF Technical Order for this vehicle) clearly describes and identifies a Federal 606 with the curved boom. That's not to say Vanderveen is not right - he states there existed a 605 which had the curved boom - but as in this case we run the risk of joining his stated facts up and assuming there is no variant in between (early 606 with curved boom). :cool2: Does anyone know anything else about the 605? For example Vanderveen describes the 606 as having a 110V generator in the crane tower - as if to suggest the 605 did not have this feature? Hmmm interesting, are the floodlamps fitted on top of the wrecker frame as shown in the pics for all C-2 models or are they a separate item carried in lockers? Bart does say fitted to all models but it isn't clear exactly what he means by this, I must admit I had always assumed he meant all C-2 models. You obviously have more technical info than I do and I bow to your greater knowledge:bow::pfrt: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 You obviously have more technical info than I do and I bow to your greater knowledge:bow::pfrt: You can bow to my greater library if you like, but i wouldn't bother about the knowledge bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 You can bow to my greater library if you like, but i wouldn't bother about the knowledge bit! Such honesty..........that's a rare attribute these days;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 The Federal 605 was used as the tractor unit for USAAF fuel tankers. I'm guessing the 605 wrecker shown in Bart was maybe a trial vehicle, or one of the first batch? The wheelbase is different to 606. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 The skill and the knowledge is where to find the information! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 The Federal 605 was used as the tractor unit for USAAF fuel tankers. I'm guessing the 605 wrecker shown in Bart was maybe a trial vehicle, or one of the first batch? The wheelbase is different to 606. According to Bart the Biederman and both Federal C-2 models were identical in spec with a wheelbase length of 189.5" but the F1 tanker models appear to have been slightly longer at 196". Does your paperwork confirm or contradict this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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