panzerwillie Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Hello everybody from Florida USA i got my self a MK1 being taking apart and will be cleaning it and replacing many things in it, does anybody have information pictures ect on how they repower then with diesel engine , read some stuff on it but not any solid info or pictures like how they use the Automatic on it any help will be great thx willie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 why why? just keep the great rolls royce b series engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 why why? just keep the great rolls royce b series engine. Agree!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 even more so when u see his location!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) Hello everybody from Florida USA i got my self a MK1 being taking apart and will be cleaning it and replacing many things in it, does anybody have information pictures ect on how they repower then with diesel engine , read some stuff on it but not any solid info or pictures like how they use the Automatic on it any help will be greatthx willie[ATTACH=CONFIG]71634[/ATTACH] Why would you want to change it? The B60 has the same characteristics as a diesel engine plus it looks to be an early MK1 Ferret with early wings and two rear aerial mounts. Canadian or Australian maybe? If you change the engine and modify the rear engine decks, transmission and lengthen the vehicle you will only devalue the vehicle. Jordan was the last country to modify Ferrets by adding a diesel engine they had to modify the vehicle with the modifications as above. If you think fuel is expensive in the US then you have to realise that it costs £1.39 a litre here and most of that is tax!! Good luck with the Ferret it looks to be a good one :-D Its you're vehicle so really its up to you what you do Edited January 6, 2013 by ferrettkitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I deeply suspect that this may possibly be one of the original 124 Canadian Ferrets, for a number of reasons:- 1 it has square side hatches, some but not all did 2 it has no turret 3 his location, as most of them ended up south of the border in the US As far as re-power there is a company called GKL that did one kit and the other is the KADDB in Jordan which did another. Neither company lets on any trade specific info and from memory a Chrysler automatic was used. I tend to agree that the B60 is a good engine if set up well and fully supportable. I guess my question is what is lacking that causes you to want to change it. If you do change it there is a market for the old engine, I will put my hand up for that. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I deeply suspect that this may possibly be one of the original 124 Canadian Ferrets, for a number of reasons:- 1 it has square side hatches, some but not all did 2 it has no turret 3 his location, as most of them ended up south of the border in the US As far as re-power there is a company called GKL that did one kit and the other is the KADDB in Jordan which did another. Neither company lets on any trade specific info and from memory a Chrysler automatic was used. I tend to agree that the B60 is a good engine if set up well and fully supportable. I guess my question is what is lacking that causes you to want to change it. If you do change it there is a market for the old engine, I will put my hand up for that. R I've seen a Ferret from Jordan in the UK its on the owners page on my website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 half the fun is hearing that engine running whilst drivers goes thru gears , a diesel fitted in its place nope nope nope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty2 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I am wonder too why diesel?? Till now I was told the fuel was cheap in the USA, we pay something like 7,0 euro for a US gallon of 3,8 liters and we not even consider to change it's. Next to that if you ever want to sell not much interest from Europe I think. One other thing, there is nothing like a dingo or ferret idling on fuel so beautiful running and quite Peter Hommes Dingo owner for over 18 years http://www.milmarket.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokarev Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Panzerwillie - I am located in FL also. No plans on a diesel conversion but I might be interested in your take off parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynx22B Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Pretty sure it's Canadian. Any other pics? Did you have a name and Call sign before priming? If so, can pretty much pinpoint it's original Regiment. If it's LdSH, can possibly find pictures in our archives. U.S. turn signals and U.S. alternator are an easy identifier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Thanks for suspecting the same as I did Lynx 22B. I have one of yours here, we should talk off line about it. And I did say "I put my hand up for that" meaning I will buy your take off bits. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I deeply suspect that this may possibly be one of the original 124 Canadian Ferrets, for a number of reasons:- 1 it has square side hatches, some but not all did I can believe it's ex-Canadian but only because of the location. I commanded 33BA81 in BAOR around 1980, as far as I could tell the oldest A vehicle in Paderborn Garrison and one of the first tranche of Ferrets, with the square driver's side hatches as shown in the pics. Actually I have a feeling it now belongs to someone on this forum, in the USA and converted to a Mark 2 and that I have exchanged PMs. So on that basis, it doesn't even need to be ex-Canadian because of location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 ... any solid info or pictures like how they use the Automatic on it any help will be greatthx willie Are you saying it is fitted with an automatic gearbox or are you referring to the standard Ferret semi-automatic gearbox? The gearbox on Ferret is beautiful. I seem to recall it was designed by the David Brown stable, intended for a pre-war Bentley or Aston Martin (the Aston Martin DB series are named for David Brown) and ended up gear-changing the seminal Routemaster bus. There are plenty of posts in this forum and elsewhere on how to use this gearbox so I shan't go into that. I for one would never dream of replacing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Are you saying it is fitted with an automatic gearbox or are you referring to the standard Ferret semi-automatic gearbox? The gearbox on Ferret is beautiful. I seem to recall it was designed by the David Brown stable, intended for a pre-war Bentley or Aston Martin (the Aston Martin DB series are named for David Brown) and ended up gear-changing the seminal Routemaster bus. There are plenty of posts in this forum and elsewhere on how to use this gearbox so I shan't go into that. I for one would never dream of replacing it. Actually, the Wilson pre-selector gearbox was designed by a man called Wilson. He formed a company called Improved Gears, to produce them and they were used in a variety of cars prewar, some for racing like the ERA. The company changed its name to Self-Changing Gears Ltd at some point. David Brown did make tank gearboxes, and I think the CVR(T) box is their manufacure, but I am pretty certain they had no input on the Ferret's Wilson box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana and Jackie Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Quite correct Richard: http://vorwahlgetriebe.de/english/pages/home.php AND http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Walter_Gordon_Wilson D&J Actually, the Wilson pre-selector gearbox was designed by a man called Wilson. He formed a company called Improved Gears, to produce them and they were used in a variety of cars prewar, some for racing like the ERA. The company changed its name to Self-Changing Gears Ltd at some point. David Brown did make tank gearboxes, and I think the CVR(T) box is their manufacure, but I am pretty certain they had no input on the Ferret's Wilson box. Edited January 15, 2013 by Diana and Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Actually, the Wilson pre-selector gearbox was designed by a man called Wilson. He formed a company called Improved Gears, to produce them and they were used in a variety of cars prewar, some for racing like the ERA. The company changed its name to Self-Changing Gears Ltd at some point. David Brown did make tank gearboxes, and I think the CVR(T) box is their manufacure, but I am pretty certain they had no input on the Ferret's Wilson box. SLightly off topic, but both the Centurion and Conqueror have David Brown boxes..... David Brown did make hateful tractors though........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolman Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 SLightly off topic, but both the Centurion and Conqueror have David Brown boxes..... David Brown did make hateful tractors though........ Hey, I've got a 1970 David brown tractor and I love it! Your offending a huddersfield man! (could be a touch biased) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty2 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 As Aston martin collector and Dingo freak I am sure that this is not true. Aston Martin never had any semi automatic boxes only borgwarner autoboxes first used in the late DB5-s as option. Dingos used wilson preselect gearboxes and as fare as I know this a just a better version of it. Great gear boxes and when well used they last long. Peter http://www.milmarket.org Are you saying it is fitted with an automatic gearbox or are you referring to the standard Ferret semi-automatic gearbox? The gearbox on Ferret is beautiful. I seem to recall it was designed by the David Brown stable, intended for a pre-war Bentley or Aston Martin (the Aston Martin DB series are named for David Brown) and ended up gear-changing the seminal Routemaster bus. There are plenty of posts in this forum and elsewhere on how to use this gearbox so I shan't go into that. I for one would never dream of replacing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddy Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Hey, I've got a 1970 David brown tractor and I love it! Your offending a huddersfield man! (could be a touch biased) I think either you must be a lucky huddersfield man or I was an unlucky Essex boy! I still hated having to use it; it used to get stuck everywhere, could never do more than power a hay zip. It was not a small thing either, and only the basic controls would work. Give me a John Deere any day! (Hell I might even take a New Holland) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Well lots of support for the B60 engine on hear. I think the people on this forum are very dedicated to preserving military history, witch is good to see. I too cringe at the thought of such an old and rare ferret being butchered to fit a diesel power pack in. Having restored a ferret from the ground up I can say you start to form a relationship with your vehicle. The vehicle I wanted was different to the vehicle I got. I think everyone wants to own a vehicle that war hopped from combat zone to combat zone, I got a Royal Engineers Ferret that never left Germany. But, as I found out more and more about my Ferret I found I was trying to perverse as much of it as I could. Soon the word "Genuine" became very over used. It's your vehicle to do with as you please, my advise would be; Don't change anything that can't be reversed easily, and keep all the parts you remove, because some day you will want to put them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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