chrisgrove Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 More still. Getting on to some tasteful redecoration by the residents of Turf Lodge! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I actually really like the look of them with the paint splatters. If I owned one, I'd be tempted to display it like that. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I actually really like the look of them with the paint splatters. If I owned one, I'd be tempted to display it like that.Cheers, Terry The trouble is Terry, people might not realise the significance of all that mess & assume you have just been using it to play paint-ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 A couple of these became Flying Pigs, 07 BK 39 & 12 BK 30. Thank you once again Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 The trouble is Terry, people might not realise the significance of all that mess & assume you have just been using it to play paint-ball? That would be their problem, Clive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 The trouble is Terry, people might not realise the significance of all that mess & assume you have just been using it to play paint-ball? Clive, Wasn't there an owner of a VPK Land Rover who burnt the front of his to represent an attack from a petrol bomber? Bad enough throwing emulsion at it, let alone burning it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yes there was indeed Richard I have a picture somewhere I'll post up when I find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgrove Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Hi all More pics: The third pic shows a Pig (not one of my unit) which was hit by a 3.5 rocket launcher bomb. I used to have a pic of the 'exit wound' but cannot locate it. Paddy must have been peeved as there were only two people in it; the driver and escort right at the back. So after being hit, the pig drove on and came into Fort Monagh where two slightly deaf and shell shocked squaddies climbed out, pretty well unharmed. The 'exit wound' looked much like the one you can see - nothing dramatic. The last two pics show a Saracen ambulance and the rear of a VPK Landrover ambulance, sent to make up 5 pics. I shall be away over Christmas, but will look out more VPK pics in the New Year. Happy Christmas everybody. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Chris so it got through the second layer of armour, where did the projectile end up? In the other side of the Pig or did it whizz around inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgrove Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Chris so it got through the second layer of armour, where did the projectile end up? In the other side of the Pig or did it whizz around inside? 3.5 RL fires a hollow charge projectile. This, when it hits, projects a high speed and hot jet of gas through the armour which, in the case of a tank, probably whizzes round inside damaging crew and equipment. but in the case of a pig, with so little armour thickness, the jet went straight through and out the other side leaving a hole not much bigger than the one you see. OK so, some stuff went around inside and the soldiers were not entirely unharmed, but nothing serious. The remainder of the projectile probably just fell in the road, but I doubt that Paddy was fined for littering. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yes of course Chris being a bit dim tonight (esp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I don't want to hijack the thread, but do you have any more Saracen pics? Mine spent many years in NI as an ambulance (82 BA 88) and the one that you just posted pics of belongs to another forum member. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I don't want to hijack the thread, but do you have any more Saracen pics? Mine spent many years in NI as an ambulance (82 BA 88) and the one that you just posted pics of belongs to another forum member. Ah yes the ambulance one in the recently posted photo belonged to Oily. Not seen him on here for a good while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 He's very active on Facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 He's very active on Facebook. Oh, that is a medium I avoid like the plague I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean N Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 He's very active on Facebook. It's noticeable that many expert forums have become much quieter with the rise of Facebook groups. It's easy and pretty much zero cost for people to set up a group on Facebook, and natural for people who are active on Facebook anyway to get involved there, but I hate the way it sucks people away from places like this, to my mind to the detriment of the hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 It's noticeable that many expert forums have become much quieter with the rise of Facebook groups. It's easy and pretty much zero cost for people to set up a group on Facebook, and natural for people who are active on Facebook anyway to get involved there, but I hate the way it sucks people away from places like this, to my mind to the detriment of the hobby. I agree entirely Sean. Many of these FB groups are not even viewable or existence known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I agree entirely Sean. Many of these FB groups are not even viewable or existence known. I think it's a two-edged sword. Facebook is entirely the wrong medium for this sort of thing as it doesn't have many of the capabilities of a proper bulletin board, but it does attract other Facebook users who may not otherwise look at specialist boards. My personal preference would be to use Facebook as a gateway into a specialist board like this one. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgrove Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I have a few more pics of Saracens in Belfast BUT; The good ones are all of the one you can see the back of in my last picture post above which is 83BA36 (and mostly include the Landrover ambulance 57FG60 beside it). There are a couple of others which are more distant, in black and white and the only number visible is the callsign 32. I will put them up when I come home again after Christmas. And I don't do Facebook either! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Facebook is excellent for interaction, but it doesn't create a searchable reference library like a decent forum; it's more a point in time community and probably equates best to the old school bulletin boards or mailing lists. I don't like the fact that it is sucking the life out of forums, but since that's where a lot of the action is, that's where I tend to go. I agree that finding the groups can be a challenge too. As for the Saracen pics, yes please! Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Facebook is excellent for interaction, but it doesn't create a searchable reference library like a decent forum; it's more a point in time community and probably equates best to the old school bulletin boards or mailing lists. I don't like the fact that it is sucking the life out of forums, but since that's where a lot of the action is, that's where I tend to go. I agree that finding the groups can be a challenge too. As for the Saracen pics, yes please! Cheers, Terry Have had a long argument why are we being forced to use the likes of Facebook and twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Clive or anyone, can you expand on the red glow patches on the vehicles please? Were they only an NI marking? Were they painted or self adhesive? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakrec Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 21BK96 Humber Pig, photo's of the inside, engine, chassis and engine number. Far as I can see looks a standard cab interior. Hope this helps Clive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Thank you that looks all standard Mk 2 & fits in with the Asset Code on the bonnet 1760-2501, other than an ammeter/voltmeter on the dash. Such a meter was not part of the Hornet set up. The engine is not original it should be 7858. What you have I think is 8528 & that was originally fitted to 27 BK 08. That was a Mk 2 & is no surprise as there were often engine swaps in NI. Any chance of getting a bit more of a view of the right side of the chassis plate please? It would be interesting if it says "Launcher" & if it displays the FV code. Not easy taking photos up in there I know! A bit easier, have you a view of the front belly plate as they were different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakrec Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Thank you that looks all standard Mk 2 & fits in with the Asset Code on the bonnet 1760-2501, other than an ammeter/voltmeter on the dash. Such a meter was not part of the Hornet set up. The engine is not original it should be 7858. What you have I think is 8528 & that was originally fitted to 27 BK 08. That was a Mk 2 & is no surprise as there were often engine swaps in NI. Any chance of getting a bit more of a view of the right side of the chassis plate please? It would be interesting if it says "Launcher" & if it displays the FV code. Not easy taking photos up in there I know! A bit easier, have you a view of the front belly plate as they were different. The chassis plate does not show a FV number, but what is interesting, at the top right hand corner, the designation Launcher has been chiselled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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