airportable Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 What have you saved from a bin? I have in my collection a WWII beret that was saved from the bin. After a short inspection and clean. To my surprise inside was paperwork. A veteran membership card (86'), Welcome letter from the Shropshire & Herefordshire Light Infantry (secretary Major C B Grundy MC) also 86'. But of greater intrest a pice of cardboard with a hole through for the cap badge (very faint ink) PTE. FISHER S.W. MORTARS S................. sadly too faint to read. I don't really collect this era. but the beret has a pride of place in my collection. Just thought I would like to share it with you. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well done for saving it. Very cool to have some papers with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 Thanks. Never thought to 'googgle' names etc. On the letter the Dep. Colonel is a Brigadier B J Lowe OBE. In a couple of min. found a photo. (54') presenting a award at Copthorne Barracks.(Shrewsbury) The KSLI has a name search, need to register. So may well do to learn more of this name. Two S.W. Fisher listed in the 39-44 roll of honour (so I take it that they would not be my Pte. Fisher) Or is membership given to family members? Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Cap GS, NOT a BERET!! :nono: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Cap GS, NOT a BERET!! :nono: Thanks Tony for putting me right . As quoted I know nothing about the era. clothing etc. What makes it a Cap GS and not a beret. Edited January 24, 2011 by airportable Gramma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o.g-palmer Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Two years ago, i spotted an old army kit bag on top of a skip. Hmmm I thought i know what that is ill rescue it. I opened it after I got it home I pulled out one set of BDs a great coat, parachute smock and an two maroon berets. Another find after a boot sale had ended, someone was sticking what looked like an officers jacket in the bin. Turned out to be a 1917 dated officers jacket.:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks Tony for putting me right . As quoted I know nothing about the era. clothing etc. What makes it a Cap GS and not a beret. The shape I suppose. I've never been able to find out. The Army having to be diffrent.:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob8066 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 The cap GS pre dates the Beret. A beret is a one piece woven wool item with or without eyelets & a bow at the rear. The GS is a two piece wool item with or without bobble on the top, depending on regiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks for that Rob. Well folks, what is this. Dare I call it a cap? The markings on white background are under the lining. Ear flaps and ties fold inside tidy to make basic cap. Allso saved from the bin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Two years ago, i spotted an old army kit bag on top of a skip. Hmmm I thought i know what that is ill rescue it. I opened it after I got it home I pulled out one set of BDs a great coat, parachute smock and an two maroon berets. Another find after a boot sale had ended, someone was sticking what looked like an officers jacket in the bin. Turned out to be a 1917 dated officers jacket.:-D Bleeeeh, I don't like you. Lucky guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ww2rupert Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks for that Rob.Well folks, what is this. Dare I call it a cap? The markings on white background are under the lining. Ear flaps and ties fold inside tidy to make basic cap. Allso saved from the bin! Hello Thats a British winter ski/mountain cap, cant think of the correct name at the moment, but used by ski troops & mountain troops. Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim gray Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Bloke offered me a bag of webbing from his grandads house when i was still serving, offered him 30.00 for it on his description of the kit. Duly delivered and when i got home it had an original para sten mag bandolier in it. Fessed up and gave him a few more quid on the monday. Nice to get tho, keeps your spirits up that its still out thier and miricals do happen. :-D Tim PS 1941 No32 scope mk1 at beltring this year for £120.00 that included the carry case but it has been modified so its missing the internal cast mounting block.( keep yer eyes open it does happen occasionally) Regards Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex4thhussar Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 As a complete newbie to the site, I thought I'd dip my toe in the water by making a comment here. I post a fair amount of stuff on another forum and wondered if this post, that concerns military headgear, might be of some interest. http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/weapons-technology-equipment/30465-black-berets-how-they-were-worn.html Regards to all Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Thanks Ron, will brouse the site afterwork. Looks intresting. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 What have you saved from a bin?I have in my collection a WWII beret that was saved from the bin. After a short inspection and clean. To my surprise inside was paperwork. A veteran membership card (86'), Welcome letter from the Shropshire & Herefordshire Light Infantry (secretary Major C B Grundy MC) also 86'. But of greater intrest a pice of cardboard with a hole through for the cap badge (very faint ink) PTE. FISHER S.W. MORTARS S................. sadly too faint to read. I don't really collect this era. but the beret has a pride of place in my collection. Just thought I would like to share it with you. Andy. Andy no relation to me. However I am Lt W R Fisher with Hereford and Worcester Army Cadet Force and our ACF HQ is up in Shropshire. I regularly attend function with the Light Infantry Regiment being ex LI and now The Rifles Officer. Small world in some ways. The Herefordshire LI Regiment Museum is at the TA Centre in Hereford and I may be able to find out more about this person for you, if you were interested as I know the retired Major in charge of the museum, who is of course ex LI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 That would be fantastic, if a item is given me I never part with it, so any history to add would be passed on one day. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Andy I have sent an email to him with a link to your thread to see how he can help. I will keep you posted on his reply and update the thread accordingly. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionjack Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 The cap GS pre dates the Beret. A beret is a one piece woven wool item with or without eyelets & a bow at the rear. The GS is a two piece wool item with or without bobble on the top, depending on regiment. As you say the beret is a 'spun' woven item. As such It can only be produced by beret manufacturers on specialised equipment. During the war we needed very large amounts. The 'General Service Cap' being made from sewn sections of standard cloth meant that any factory with basic sewing ability could produce them. This freed up the beret makers to make berets for the Tank Corps, Paras etc etc. The GS Cap has nothing in common with a beret and are made from 4 sections of cloth not including the lining. The top is one piece, the body made from 3 more, and the band the 4th. The inner lining is quilted and waterproofed. This all adds up to the cap being a lot warmer and dryer than a beret, and managing to look considerably more stupid when worn, leading to the old army name of 'Cap, Ridiculous'. Early caps are made from the same cloth as the previous Field Service Cap, the later are made from standard battledress serge. The GS Cap never had a bobble on the top. That was the 'Tam O'Shanter' and although made in a similar fashion to the GS cap was a different item. The proportions are different as the cap is made from different size panels leading to a larger size when worn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 What have you saved from a bin?I have in my collection a WWII beret that was saved from the bin. After a short inspection and clean. To my surprise inside was paperwork. A veteran membership card (86'), Welcome letter from the Shropshire & Herefordshire Light Infantry (secretary Major C B Grundy MC) also 86'. But of greater intrest a pice of cardboard with a hole through for the cap badge (very faint ink) PTE. FISHER S.W. MORTARS S................. sadly too faint to read. I don't really collect this era. but the beret has a pride of place in my collection. Just thought I would like to share it with you. Andy. Andy can you email me the photos as my officer friend curator has come back to me. He can't view images without joining forum? He has stated the following in an email to me. Dear Wayne, Many thanks for your e mail. My apologies for the delay in responding, but I have been away. Sadly, I cannot open the site without joining. I should be grateful if you would let me have an image, and we will see what we can find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Picked up to-day, what is it, what country? Badge looks like it may have been sort of heart shapped? No info inside at all. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Like I said on phone mate, looks like a Caubeen (spelling?) Irish Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 Like I said on phone mate, looks like a Caubeen (spelling?) Irish Mark Thanks Mark, that would make sence. As in the pile of 'tat' I have a No.2 Dress Army Royal Irish Rangers. Green wolly trousers and a No.2 Dress jacket, pos. a belt.. Green, narrow red stripes either side a broard blue. Jacket has medal ribbon. Will take a pic. but jacket and trousers need cleaning asap.A few different items of headware in the stuff picked up today!! Most a little damp, so a couple of weeks drying and washing. May be some intresting stuff for further threads. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Picked up today a rather nice riot helmet. Dated 85'. May be of intrest. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdbikemad Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Picked up today a rather nice riot helmet. Dated 85'.May be of intrest. Andy. "Helmet ART" stands for "Anti-Riot Topper"..........standard NI issue... Helmets Ltd used to be located in Wheathampstead, Herts.....they also use the brand name "Cromwell"......they have since moved (I think) to Scotland and now called Helmet Integrated Sytems LTD....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer nut Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 aka.. Martian Helmet Nice find Andy. We will be doing some phot shoots soon, so be prepared to rumage..lol Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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