rbrtcrowther Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) Well i thought it was time i tried to start a restoration blog thingy.:wave: The engine is now sat in the shed waiting for some love and i have just removed the clutch. Someone had been there before and i was expecting the worst (If the rest of the truck is anything to go by) but hey presto a new (as in not many miles) clutch plate!:wow:. A little bit of heat cracking on both pressure plate and flywheel but nothing to worry about.:pfrt: She won't be working hard and i have seen much worse on every muir hill tractor i have ever worked on. On the other note i stuck a leaver between the flywheel and housing an i can lever the crankshaft up and down about a 1mm confirming a knackerd bottom end. Rob. PS. I really need a bigger shed. Edited July 24, 2010 by rbrtcrowther Due to a change in partner i don't really want my truck named after my ex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 I'm glad I'm not the only one needing a bigger shed Rob ! They seem to fill themselves up no matter what size ! Hope the engine all comes together ok ! Regards Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz76 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 That's encouraging news Re: the clutch Rob. Hope it all goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 :wave: Today i removed the starter motor... A five miniute job that to 2 f**&&*g Hours:argh: Slacken the pinch bolt and withdraw.... My arse! So decided to remove whole thing from bell housing as clamp was already cracked. Great... aluminium starter in aluminium housing for 50 od years with no engine side panels= slightly stuck. Starter has now been beaten into submision with wedges chisels and leavers ect.:angry It would never have come off with the engine in the truck, no way..not a chance. Also removed compresor and front pully at which point the front crankshaft oil seal fell out.:???(that explains the oil leak then):whistle:.Hey ho such is life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 :wave:Today i removed the starter motor... A five miniute job that to 2 f**&&*g Hours:argh: Slacken the pinch bolt and withdraw.... My arse! So decided to remove whole thing from bell housing as clamp was already cracked. Great... aluminium starter in aluminium housing for 50 od years with no engine side panels= slightly stuck. Starter has now been beaten into submision with wedges chisels and leavers ect.:angry It would never have come off with the engine in the truck, no way..not a chance. bin there done that got the welds on the houseing to prove it i did mine in the truck and wishd there was an easyr way . but thers not ive got those pics for you rob ill put them up in my blog later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madrat Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Great to see progress on your truck Rob! I'm impressed at the amount of great Scammell info currently being posted on the forum, keep it coming! Best of luck, Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Daymond Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 yep, keep going a bit at a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 Well finally after sorting the car and land rover out ( the car had no brakes and i keep breaking the land rover every time i off road it:drive:) I am now flat out on the Scammell engine So long as we don't arrange any more off road days out. I have removed the crank from the diesel today. The bearings are gone and the crank has groves like you've never seen. Its also bloomin heavy:shocked: Tomorrows task is to plonk the petrol crank in with it's shells throw the sump at it in double check the timing. I really have to get it right as the timing gears are behind the flywheel and i think there would be tears if i got it wrong:banghead: Here are some pics i will try to post more :whentitsdone: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 By the way you see can a clip of the landy and and some mates on youtube just put "Glaslyn 4x4" in the search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I guess that end a bit of an engine rumble! Or was it hard to tell being a diesel? Wouldn't necessarily say that crank is beyond repair, so I wouldn't be getting rid if I was you. Keep it for a spare. You never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 No rumble at all... Sounded sweet as a nut. Mabey cos the crank was so heavy? Just a compleat lack of oil pressure:-( And a broken main bearing stud. That crank has already had one regrind in 1957. To be honest due to the lack of parts availability for this engine if this epic crankshaft swap is a waste of time i will have to lob it in the bin and fit a leyland 680. I know where ther are 27 of them in a row at the last count! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor698 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 No rumble at all... Sounded sweet as a nut. Mabey cos the crank was so heavy? Just a compleat lack of oil pressure:-( And a broken main bearing stud. That crank has already had one regrind in 1957. To be honest due to the lack of parts availability for this engine if this epic crankshaft swap is a waste of time i will have to lob it in the bin and fit a leyland 680. I know where ther are 27 of them in a row at the last count! that is a good and easy engine to fit:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Well today i went and did battle with the crankshaft:beatenup:and after much struggle it is now fitted. There is only about an 8th of an inch clearence between the ballance weights and the block also the crank will only come out in one position. (if you have an explorer workshop manual feel free to read up on crankshaft removal with heads still on. ) Have had lots of help from little Jenny all weekend who provided tea toast and cleaned all the bits and even helped fit crank. she also tightened the bolts for the sump.(there are quite a few). so we now have a diesel engine with a petrol crank and a petrol sump and oil pump scavenge system from engines built 20 years apart. fingers crossed.:nut: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Have you cleaned out the inside of that block with anything? Looks remarkably gunge free for an old engine! Also looks promising for the condition of other parts even if the crank was poorly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 We're all fingers crossed here Robert, although Unless the balance is different it should be OK. Those pickup pipes are a b***er aren't they, nice to have help though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Good luck. I hope everything goes well for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 Have you cleaned out the inside of that block with anything?Looks remarkably gunge free for an old engine! Also looks promising for the condition of other parts even if the crank was poorly. No but she had vairious oil changes and flushes to try and get to the bottom of the oil pressure problem. And i got little Jenny to wipe out the crank case with some rag. I don't want to go to town on the engine with paint ect incase it still has issues. Will try to stand it up tonight and start on the timing case ect.:sweat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 We're all fingers crossed here Robert, although Unless the balance is different it should be OK. Those pickup pipes are a b***er aren't they, nice to have help though! yes the pickup pipes are a b***er and all the nuts and bolts were wired up or had teeny tiny split pins.:noyay: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 yes the pickup pipes are a b***er and all the nuts and bolts were wired up or had teeny tiny split pins.:noyay: That one looks ideally placed to take a piece out of your missus' head as well. :shake: There would've been no more help for a while then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Just got in after checking the valve timing...Good god what an utter pain in the b**hole:banghead: All my timing marks line up perfect but i thought it would be a good idea to double check the valve timing as per the manual. So out with the diesel manual and all the tedious steps were followed to the letter. Oh dear....Oh dear oh dear. nothing like what it was supposed to be. I was now stressed double checking the timing marks and the timing charts in the book.:readbook: (A meadows diesel de-compresses on the inlet valve for extra confusion) 2 hours later still no joy and i am now deeply stressed as i can't run the engine on the floor cos of the oil cooler and filter situation, and all the timing gears are behind the flywheel....clutch.....bellhousing.ect so if it's wrong the engine will have to come out again. Just When all seemed lost I had a look at the explorer manual for the petrol engine that showed another way of checking valve timing (great just what i need>) But more importantly another valve timing chart! with different over laps ect. So back to job in hand and hey presto valve timing now makes sence(i think, but to be honset i've compleatly lost the plot by this point) and is all in the right place. It is at this point i noticed that the diesel book looks alot older than the explorer book. Also there is a brass plate on the engine... Engine recondishend 1953 and bought up mark 9c specification. So i am now 99.99 percent sure that the camshaft was revised to give a greater (flexibility) on later engines. I'll just have to wait and see if the damn thing runs ok. Old engines.....old books....old up grades= a great deal of stress.:cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Hi Rob ,any news on the engine rebuild mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share Posted March 17, 2009 Al back together and sat in it's stand in the garage. having trouble getting the rear crankshaft oil seal but think ive found one now. Then i will throw the flywheel and clutch at it then plonk it in the truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 Al back together and sat in it's stand in the garage. having trouble getting the rear crankshaft oil seal but think ive found one now. Then i will throw the flywheel and clutch at it then plonk it in the truck. Good luck Rob ! I have everything crossed ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrtcrowther Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 New seals have arrived and are now fitted. Clutch and flywheel are on bellhousig too. Front seal and housing, crankpully, compressor, ect the old donkey is now ready to go back in.:sweat: just got to clean the chassis and all the nuts and bolts. Mabey plonk it in next weekend if i have time and good weather.:clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younggun Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 good work rob:thumbsup: hope the refit goes well ime planning to get mine back together easter weekend . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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