mvdepot Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Well the sun shone for a few mins last month so we decided to set about our Sherman resto!! First the false floor had to be cut out and then the Barrel and Mantle! closely followed by the comanders hatch!,next will be the turret then an appointment with mr shotblaster in the stubble field follwed by a long sleep in the shed over winter ,we need many interior parts so if anyone has a lead or a shed full of Sherman bits and pieces please get in touch ,cheers Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdepot Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 The 75mm coming out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joris Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Wow, this seems like a massive task! I'm sure you know to get in touch with our members Jim Clark & Adrian Barrell who both own and restored their Sherman? Mate, I've merged the threads and fixed the broken IMG links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 WOW - great stuff Adam! Kept that one quite......can you give us some back ground on it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Remind me where this tank came from? What caught my eye were the grousers - track wideners to reduce ground pressure and the adverse effects of driving through mud. ISTR first fitted to M4A3E2 Cobra Kings, but thereafter retrofitted to earlier marks (like this). The Germans did the same thing, fitting wider Ostketten (East Tracks - tracks for the Eastern Front) to Mark 3s and Mark 4s. Panthers and Tigers had wide tracks designed in. Indeed Tiger had to switch to narrow tracks to fit on a train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Youve got your work cut out there. Did it come with an engine? where did you get it from?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I'm sure Adam knows and will tell more but, it does not have grousers, those bolt onto the surface of the track. This is an M4 E9. The E9 being post war spaced out suspension which was done to allow the fitting of extended end connectors on both sides of the track rather than just the outside as often seen during the war. The point was to lower ground pressure as you say. Grousers increase traction and were only fitted on flat rubber track. Anyone who saw my Sherman at Ramsbury can see why they might be needed! The steel chevron has the grouser as part of the link. In fact, Adams tank is a rare, M4 composite hull but with small hatches, that makes it one of the first M4 composites and even rarer! Adam, I see what you mean about the insides....... even the bulkheads are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I'm sure Adam knows and will tell more but, it does not have grousers, those bolt onto the surface of the track. This is an M4 E9. The E9 being post war spaced out suspension which was done to allow the fitting of extended end connectors on both sides of the track rather than just the outside as often seen during the war. The point was to lower ground pressure as you say. Grousers increase traction and were only fitted on flat rubber track. Anyone who saw my Sherman at Ramsbury can see why they might be needed! The steel chevron has the grouser as part of the link. In fact, Adams tank is a rare, M4 composite hull but with small hatches, that makes it one of the first M4 composites and even rarer! Adam, I see what you mean about the insides....... even the bulkheads are gone. I thought the grousers didn't look quite like I remembered them. That explains it. And I did wonder how come there was space for grousers on the inside. All explained. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdepot Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) She is indeed an M4E9 Hybrid built originaly in 1943 cast front and plate rear end!!,small hatches and only one hatch in the turret .It probabley was upgraded to E9 at the end of the war and it appears to have little or no wear apart from the damage that has been done when she was made into a childrens playground attraction in California.We aquired her about 18 months ago and recieved her about 4 months ago .She has a claim to fame to shipped out to Iceland and used as a prop in Flags of our Fathers!! will have more pics soon this one was taken at Longbeach CA USA when she was waiting for the boat ,cheers Edited August 27, 2008 by Jack Repair link so image works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdepot Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 At docks in Long beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8 bubba Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 would that be a grizzly sherman? thats propper nice i would love to fix somthing like that up well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Adam this is going to be a great restoration to follow and hope you keep us all up to date with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdepot Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) We will do problem !! ,here she is in Natural habitat just waiting for a panther to come over the hill !! well waiting for the turret to come off and for the shotblaster to arrive!! Edited August 27, 2008 by Jack Fixed picture link :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 How on earth do you import a Sherman tank, the paperwork must have been massive.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdepot Posted August 28, 2008 Author Share Posted August 28, 2008 it was very hard and we had some nail biting moments i can tell you!!! but then we used Gloucster freight who sorted the job out in no time for us it did cost about £10k in the end though but she is worth it !!,cheers Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I do hope they did not charge you tax based on weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdepot Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 No they charge you 6% of the price you paid for it !! that goes for all vehicles of historic value !! the one to watch is the storage charge at the docks in the UK that was charged by the ton and gave us a nasty kick in the butt LOL,cheers Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Now that's indeed a nice tank. I also noticede the track extensions, especially the ones on the inside. Goog to see there some knowlageble people on the forum. Good luck on the resto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I do feel sorry for the Tanks at Utah beach - wonder if they should be pulled off for a complete restoration in time for the 65th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I look forward to seeing the photos of how you get on. As it came from the USA and then went to Iceland was its re-entry into the USA prohibited, as i understand that you cant take US armour into the US anymore? Good luck with it. I will enjoy seeing the updates. Tim (too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdepot Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 I believe they had some kind limited time special permit allowing it out and then back in!!!,un bolting turret on sunday all going well if it comes off will post pics ,cheers Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I believe they had some kind limited time special permit allowing it out and then back in!!!,un bolting turret on sunday all going well if it comes off will post pics ,cheers Adam Adam - do you think you can talk us through how you found/came across the Sherman...it sounds a fasinating story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvdepot Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 Well its not a long story we saw it advertised on the Dodge forum first and then on G503! i got some pics of it via email and that was it we all fell in love LOl!!!,the hard part was the shipping we have brought plenty of jeeps and containers from the USA but never a tank !! two shipping companys tried and got nowhere by this time we had got her to the docks and then had to put it into storage until GFS did the job for us and she was on her way!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 369 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 I do feel sorry for the Tanks at Utah beach - wonder if they should be pulled off for a complete restoration in time for the 65th? not sure about the tanks at Utah but when I was there a couple of weeks ago the halftrack had a letter taped to the side of it from the local mayors office stating that it was in a dangerous condition and that it must be made safe which judging by the amount of rot will probably mean removal and cutting up Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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