Lord Burley Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I went and see this last night.The film is based around the Will Smith character Lt Col Robert Neville.Being the last man alive in New York.Its a bit like 28 days later and the Omega man with Charlton Heston.In the opening sequences the Smith character is driving a 500 GT Mustang when he approches a deserted military check point.In amongst the normal fair of Reo,s and Hummers are two or three 432,s with the Scimitar turret.I thought that there was only about eleven of these made?.So i thought it was a bit unusual to see three in a film?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Mark, There were no 432s with Scimitar turrets made, they are Fox turrets which are a different shape, easy mistake to make though. There were actually quite a few made, but I do not know exact numbers. A while ago while I was visiting British Military Vehicles, Bob Grundy had managed to find a new upgrade kit, which had never been fitted. He was installing it on a Mk 1 432 for an American client. I think there are quite a few turreted 432s in the USA. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Actually Mark, it is 'The Omega Man'. There was an interview on BBC7 with the authour last week. He is not impressed by either film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Are they ever? I don't suppose I'll be happy with the film of my book. All I have to do is write the blighter and get the cheque off Dreamworks. Easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 Mark, There were no 432s with Scimitar turrets made, they are Fox turrets which are a different shape, easy mistake to make though. There were actually quite a few made, but I do not know exact numbers. A while ago while I was visiting British Military Vehicles, Bob Grundy had managed to find a new upgrade kit, which had never been fitted. He was installing it on a Mk 1 432 for an American client. I think there are quite a few turreted 432s in the USA. Chris What are the differences between the two turrets?.You get quite a good shot of the side of one of the 432,s as the mustang takes a corner.The camera pans away from the car to linger on the side of the 432. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Mark, The Fox turret is rectangular, with curved sides. The Scorpion/Scimitar turret is octagonal and a bit taller. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Chris is right about there being quite a few turreted 432,s. Other than the development they were supplied as kits for the units to fit themselves.The procedure is covered in EMER,Tacked Vehicles E105/2,Installation No.8. These soon proved to be very unpopular and unsuitable for the role intended and were soon removed from the vehicles and returned to wherever. A number survived in the Berlin Brigade and I believe there were some at Warminster. What remained of the vehicles/kits went through Withams a while back but I didn,t see any complete vehicle instalations. Although using the Fox turret the turret basket was totally different,although looking quite basic it was quite a work of art. I,ve managed to aquire just about everything to complete my vehicle,the only thing missing being the flat hatch which replaced the original commanders cupola which I,ll more than likely end up making,that is unless anyone out there has one. Although up and running there is quite a bit still to do but we,ll get there one day. Here hopefully is a pic or two of my vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Sorry seem to have sent the same pic twice :redfaced:try again :computerterror: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 How much weight does that add to the vehicle ? How does that effect the handling when off roading , thinking along the lines that the Military must have had additional warnings about slopes and such after a convertion like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 That was one of the down sides,it added 1917kg(4220lb)to the top of the vehicle without the ammo etc :shake:.There was also an expectation that it could carry some troops :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Apart from that I still think it looks the part though :-D When I move it next :whistle: I,ll take some pics of the interior to show the set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPTA team Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Dave bring it with you on the Plain invasion weekend :whistle: :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Tony ,can,t bring the 434 & 432/30mm rarden :dunno:,which would you rather practice your map reading in. :rofl: They both need a bit of work,pack changes and service :rtfm: etc.It,ll be more functional than restored :whistle:but there again the Army manages like that a lot :what: Cheers Dave P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPTA team Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Dave its your call mate, you bring what ever you want. Im sure we will get lost at some point of the weekend :whistle: Have you got the radio gear sorted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon in a 432 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I noticed them as well Does seem strange that a film with a massive budget didn't have the correct modern US tanks in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazz Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 when doing my 30/76mm gunner mech course at Lulworth early 80's did my training and firing on a 432/30, thought it was a great piece of kit. Baz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowtracdave Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Adverts are usually something that I fast forward through but I happened to catch a trail for Big Brother on Channel 4 earlier today & noticed a turreted 432 in the background - can't miss it really it's purple . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazz Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Just looked at the vehs in question on a still from the movie, the left 432 has a Scorpion turret, the centre is a 432/30, the right veh looks like a 436 with the Cybeline (Mortar) radar on it. Baz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddington Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 From a gunner/commanders point of view they must have been excellent for training,acres of room compared to a CVRT. Tony,I can feel the shift of blame for the navigational errors being moved to my 'Norman Collier' communications system! :redfaced:I'll try and iron out all the gremlins :evil: before the Plain Invasion Dave P :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazz Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 yES, TONS OF ROOM, THERE WAS 6 PERS PER CREW, WE BOMBED UP FIRST THING THEN ROTATED THROUGHT THE VEH, FIRST AS GUNNER THEN MOVING ACROSS TO TAKE OUR PLACE AS COMMANDER. THE HANDY THING WAS THOSE NOT FIRING COULD JUST SIT IN THE BACK WITH THE REAR DOOR OPEN. BAZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Was the purpose of the 432 originally used as an APC and then with the turret to be used as an armed reconnaissance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazz Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 432/30 was designed to be used by 432 equipped infantry units as an anti apc veh, to save the milan tubes for heavy armour. Baz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPTA team Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Dave how could you think such a thing, A man with my up bringing, passing the buck :whistle: :whistle:. Out of curiosity, How many different marks of FV430s are there in private hands at present. This has given me an idea for a get together at some point. I know there are plenty of 432 ACPs, 434 RVs but what about the Swingfire, cyberline and Mortar variants. Just a thought. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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