Jump to content

1942 Commer Q2 30cwt Restoration.


Rootes75

Recommended Posts

We went down the yard again this morning, she started nicely with minimal choke that was released straight away. She then sat on tickover for 10 minutes without missing a beat. 

Very pleased with her.

Its something we havent thought about before, its just one of those things that when you replace your plugs or the like, you dont check that new parts aren't faulty.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, Rootes75 said:

So a question to other MV owners, my Commer has its petrol guage blanked off, not as an afterthought but a factory fitted guage.

Is there a reason for this and do other British vehicles have similar?

A lot of the British military vehicles did not have electrical fuel gauges in WW2 period, there were vehicles with mechanical gauges in the tanks but most were supplied with graduated dipsticks, the Bedfords had a pressed metal one about 2 inches wide and marked off in gallons. I believe in the army it was a chargeable offense to run out of fuel, so no excuse that the gauge must have been wrong!

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

I have contacted Geoff Fletcher, who has been very helpful.

From his records my Commer is not with the RAF in 1949. It could simply mean she was with the RAF but sold off before 49. She was an Army truck, as they used the 30cwt GS trucks or he has suggested maybe she was RN? That could account for the blue paint over the SCC2 brown maybe?

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just a short update, work is progressing well now. Lots of rubbing down of cab panels and unfortunately finding plenty of rot. Think we will be pretty busy fabricating and welding in the near future.

Aside that we have this very day removed the wooden GS body (with the help of a large forklift from a unit on the same yard), its actually in worse condition than we thought. Both body outers are rotten enough to put your fingers through, 3 cross members are the same and then the deck is only ply which is simply crumbling under any weight so we cant stand up in it or safely store things in the back.

The other thing with the body is that for some reason it is shorter than all the GS bodies I can find in Rootes photos. I think we will take this opportunity to lengthen the body as we have to replace most of the timber anyway.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, took pics at various stages. I just have to download them now.

We did have a big stroke of luck also at the start of the week. By chance I managed to track down a previous owners son and in turn he found out some documents they had relating to the lorry. We have found that roughly between 1955-65 the Commer was used as a Tow truck in a Rootes Garage called Woolleys in Windermere. 

Another piece of her history uncovered and another lead to follow. We put out a post on a lical Lakes page and have had a few responses of people recalling and even driving her! They have said that when she arrived she was still sporting desert type paint!

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

So here's the dilema. As you can see in the photo below my Commer has a very short chassis. It is not cut down and the towbar is purpose made/fitted.

51169568136_ffa7de03ba.jpg

The chassis on a Q2 with the GS body fitted extends at least a foot further than this. So, I wondered could it be that mine is a Pre-heater bodied truck that I know from pictures has a short overhang, it is not as yesterday I found that these trucks have a PTO fitted and mine does not.

It really does throw up the question of what my truck was actually used for? Could it have been an RAF tug like some Fordsons and Bedfords? 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 5/13/2021 at 11:22 AM, Pete Ashby said:

Wild guess here,  5th wheel tractor unit ?

Any evidence of extra holes in the frame for the fittings ?

Pete

Thanks Pete,

We will check for holes in the top of the chassis rails.

Edited by Rootes75
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, ted angus said:

Best I can do I am afraid. There could be a towing hitch lurking in the shadows ?? Ted.

 

RAF Tractors001.jpg

Thanks Ted,

Thats a very nice larger Superpoise. Its interesting to note that's its chassis does terminate very close to the rear spring hangers as mine does.

I have no record though of the Q2 being used in this way. But as so many were supplied as simply cab/chassis to the RAF could there have been some one-offs or special purpose trucks?

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Q15 GS,  Q2  15cwt van( canvas roof ), de-icing heater unit,  type 105 signals DF.  8ft wheelbase tractor (for Tasker couplings). 10ft wheelbase tractor ( for Tasker couplings). that's all I can find and they are the only types I have come accross . TED 

Edited by ted angus
  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

With the body removed we now have really good access to the whole of the cab and rear chassis, its thrown up some nasty rust areas like the rear cab mounting and lower edge shown below.

51204691423_181c5135bf.jpg

In removing the cab steps we have also found they need plenty of fabricating/welding as does the lower edges of the front wings. The passenger side cab door needs to be re-skinned too. 

It'll keep me busy for a while!

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

We have now removed all the cab glass. The rear window needs a new rubber, the door windows are perspex so they need replacing but I am really at a loss regards the windscreen.

We got the rubber off today and a replacement will be fine but the lower frame is crumbling apart, it has 2 internal lips and is a very complicated cross section. Fabricating a replacement will be very difficult.

It shares the screen with the postwar Q4 so I have put some feelers out for any complete screens as spares.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hi Richard,

Its a single piece windscreen but the frame is in 2 pieces (upper and lower frame).

The parts book gives it as:

Windshield Assembly - M-500-39-04

It does then list all the components within that assembly.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...