Rodney Maynard Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Yeah I know I was a bit confused about that. I hold lorry and bus and H test doesn't compare with them at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLanceUK Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Having just done a c license and my bike license, the h license was a joke. 20 mins of an examiner walking beside you, turning left, right, stopping, reversing round a corner followed by 3 Highway Code questions. No wonder any can teach it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Yeah I don't think it's a hard test but if you take it seriously and prepare right. You never know what sort of examiner you going to get one that is experienced in tracked vehicles and ones not lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 You might find a trainer if you post your question on the Military Vehicle Trust. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2023327377915573/?ref=share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Yeah worth a try thanks. To be honest I would just like the equipment and I could teach myself I know what they do on the test and what is expected. I spoke with a ex trainer few years back and said if your paying anymore then couple hundred pounds doing cat H and G tests your getting ripped off. He put a load of people through using plant machinery which was road legal but stopped doing it and did try and persuade him to help but nothing as doing other stuff now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana and Jackie Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Your problem will come getting insurance, you can be added to someone else's who owns and drives a class H, but as a learner you are unlikely to get insurance to drive on a public highway. I taught a friend to drive my CVRT, from Europe as a learner on my insurance, cost about £50 for a week. Edited July 11, 2021 by Diana and Jackie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Diana and Jackie said: Your problem will come getting insurance, you can be added to someone else's who owns and drives a class H, but as a learner you are unlikely to get insurance to drive on a public highway. I taught a friend to drive my CVRT, from Europe as a learner on my insurance, cost about £50 for a i Yeah that's when your in a catch 22 and wouldn't have a problem paying any administration costs like that but alot of farmers don't want to risk their machines which I can understand to a point. Always keeping my eyes open and never know something may come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryb Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Rodney Maynard said: Yeah have tried this route with plant companys but is finding equipment that is road legal. I can rent equipment but none of it road legal and they won't help you to make it legal not interested but haven't given up just yet. it is exempt from being road legal for the test, as the H licence is legally required in certain instances, ie unloading and loading tracked plant where it involves crossing or travelling roadways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, terryb said: it is exempt from being road legal for the test, as the H licence is legally required in certain instances, ie unloading and loading tracked plant where it involves crossing or travelling roadways I have asked about this and was told it has to have a registration plate, insurance, and tax if applicable because you could go on the road. I know some people have stated they never went on a road but you can't guarantee that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Five Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just a slight off-set on this topic. If someone is looking for a vehicle to start providing training for the H Licence, how about using on of these? https://uk-tracks.com/models/tinger-track-2/ The website says that they can be road registered. As the vehicle is 'steered by tracks', does it matter whether that is by levers or 'motorcycle handlebars'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Oh Five said: Just a slight off-set on this topic. If someone is looking for a vehicle to start providing training for the H Licence, how about using on of these? https://uk-tracks.com/models/tinger-track-2/ The website says that they can be road registered. As the vehicle is 'steered by tracks', does it matter whether that is by levers or 'motorcycle handlebars'. I'm sure these would be legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLanceUK Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Oh Five said: Just a slight off-set on this topic. If someone is looking for a vehicle to start providing training for the H Licence, how about using on of these? https://uk-tracks.com/models/tinger-track-2/ The website says that they can be road registered. As the vehicle is 'steered by tracks', does it matter whether that is by levers or 'motorcycle handlebars'. When I did my h it was in an Argocat which had handlebars... but I know Nick told me they weren’t allowed to use it any more, so they sold it and brought a huge tractor thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, SirLanceUK said: When I did my h it was in an Argocat which had handlebars... but I know Nick told me they weren’t allowed to use it any more, so they sold it and brought a huge tractor thing I thought as long as it had tracks it was OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimy2bins Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Hello, I'm looking at doing my h license aswell but think the price doubling in the last few years is disgusting. From what I understand about what nick mead has said is, he was told by dvsa that they will only do it using the tracked tractor now and it has to be in traffic. I can understand that buying the challenger tractor and the cost of the rubber tracks mean he was looking at increasing the price. Not sure if the tester will come to you anymore. They were going to do away with the h license, but realised some people do need it so just decide to make it a lot harder, I suspect to put of Joe blogs from getting it to drive military stuff on the road. If anyone has found anything recently that is concrete please share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLanceUK Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, Jimy2bins said: Hello, I'm looking at doing my h license aswell but think the price doubling in the last few years is disgusting. From what I understand about what nick mead has said is, he was told by dvsa that they will only do it using the tracked tractor now and it has to be in traffic. I can understand that buying the challenger tractor and the cost of the rubber tracks mean he was looking at increasing the price. Not sure if the tester will come to you anymore. They were going to do away with the h license, but realised some people do need it so just decide to make it a lot harder, I suspect to put of Joe blogs from getting it to drive military stuff on the road. If anyone has found anything recently that is concrete please share. Have you actually contacted dvla and found out what they say? I have had the same chat with Nick myself, however I have heard the other people are still doing h license’s if so how? I have been in contact with dvla and been told I can instruct people to get there license, I just didn’t go that extra mile to find out what else is involved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, Jimy2bins said: Hello, I'm looking at doing my h license aswell but think the price doubling in the last few years is disgusting. From what I understand about what nick mead has said is, he was told by dvsa that they will only do it using the tracked tractor now and it has to be in traffic. I can understand that buying the challenger tractor and the cost of the rubber tracks mean he was looking at increasing the price. Not sure if the tester will come to you anymore. They were going to do away with the h license, but realised some people do need it so just decide to make it a lot harder, I suspect to put of Joe blogs from getting it to drive military stuff on the road. If anyone has found anything recently that is concrete please share. I was told that dvla were considering getting rid of the cat H and the F tractor and put them under the hgv license. My info came from a museum as he wants to do his and a local company who trained Cat h and G road rollers can't get insurance to do Cat H anymore. Not sure how concrete it is and nothing on the dvsa website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimy2bins Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, SirLanceUK said: Have you actually contacted dvla and found out what they say? I have had the same chat with Nick myself, however I have heard the other people are still doing h license’s if so how? I have been in contact with dvla and been told I can instruct people to get there license, I just didn’t go that extra mile to find out what else is involved Was thinking of doing just that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimy2bins Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rodney Maynard said: I was told that dvla were considering getting rid of the cat H and the F tractor and put them under the hgv license. My info came from a museum as he wants to do his and a local company who trained Cat h and G road rollers can't get insurance to do Cat H anymore. Not sure how concrete it is and nothing on the dvsa website. That would be handy as already have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Yeah that's my current job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I haven't contacted dvsa but with the driver shortage on hgv side I think tests for G and H will be put on the back burner or changed at some point. I would to do both of them but can't see it happening. I think the only way you might get the a H licence is asking a farmer for his challenger or own one yourself and chances of getting a test at present pretty low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryb Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 no H test availability down here for about 14 months, as the backlog of car & bike tests takes priority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney Maynard Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Doesn't suprise me and I can't see them existing by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick mead Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Ok chaps. For a carved in stone, straight from the horses mouth answer. I haven’t feckin got one but I will get one with the help of Lord John Attlee, House of Lords who shows a great interest in this subject being a military vehicle owner. We at tanks a lot used to do a simple off road test where if you could spell your name you probably passed. Tracking around the fields with a DVSA examiner watching from a distanc trying not to loose a wellington. Then things changed and the test had to be done on the public highway with a road registered taxed and insured vehicle. We adapted an Argocat with mondeo wing mirrors and things went well for several years . If a student did bounce it of a parked car things were normally taken care of on the spot with a fist full of cash or a drive in a tank back on the farm. Then they banned it saying it was to small. I said it was track laying lever steering and the principle was the same as all tracked vehicles plus it was much safer for other road users. They threatened to revoke all of my past customer passes going back years if I made a fuss. Then DVSA said we had to use a 432 and the test would be a mixture of on and off road. After a few months they banned them. Then DVSA said we had to use CVRT and the whole test had to be carried out on the public highway after a few months they banned them. They told me that all military tracked vehicles were a driving platform designed for two a driver and commander and were unsuitable. I said I would modify one and they responded. It can’t be modified who could say if it was suitable. The only option was to splash out on a very special Cat challenger tracked tractor from a vineyard in France with extra thin 25 inch tracks. The wheels had to be pulled in to so the overall width of the vehicle was within 2.55 m.The big yellow monster cost £58,000 plus vat and cost a hatful to run the little wheels are £600 each and the tracks are about £15,000 and don’t even ask about insurance. it’s come to my attention a couple of people have taken a test recently in a military vehicle which I’m delighted to hear. It means I can sell the Cat tractor and go back to using one of the dozens of military machines again I have parked all around Tanks a lot. I have written to all at the DVSA including Craig’s Harman who unfortunately is not in our area anymore who was genuinely a breath of fresh air and the very helpful Lord Attlee and I’m waiting for permission and an apology and compensation.. If this is not forthcoming I would expect them to revoke and passes issued in tracked military vehicles going back three years when they insisted on Tanks a lot buying the Cat challenger . Have we been victimised, or is their an underground movement to stop or slowdown the amount of H licence places available. Or am I just becoming a bitter twisted syndicalism old barstard. WATCH THIS SPACE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Probably the last sentence....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attleej Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Dear All, Unfortunately, and as I explained to NIck, I am currently recovering from Chemo for NHL and I am still clinically extremely vulnerable. The doc has banned me from London until Feb next year and I do not take any avoidable risks. Touch wood, I have not yet had an infection. Bearing in mind the inconsistent way in which DVSA has been operating, it will make for an interesting meeting at a senior level at the Department for Transport when I can get to London. The good news about my illness is that it makes for plenty of time to work on the REME Museum's Conqueror ARV! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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