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On the strange spacer.....

I agree with Gordon. This piece is likely a sacrificial item.  Just a thought, maybe as it is cracked anyway, consider making a new one out of plate brass and never wonder or worry.  Galvanic corrosion will be stopped.

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8 hours ago, andypugh said:

The 'strange aluminium spacer' also seems to have a crack through to one of the holes. I wonder if that will cause a weep? 

Maybe some sort of penetrating sealant (Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure?) might be worth trying. 

Very good observation - and I noticed the same crack to the other hole, too. But these end in a hole, nowhere to continue, it will cut! /as they say in Forged in Fire :)/

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For a moment looking at the machined part photo I wondered whether the cracks were self inflicted by the way the part was held in the lathe chuck with expansion forces coming into play. However you can see the old cracks quite clearly in the pre-machining picture!

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Well spotted Chaps! There is a crack from the centre hole to both stud holes. I think they were caused by the mild steel stud corroding inside the hole and corrosion product build-up. There is a gasket on both sides of the plate with one side facing the aluminium top tank and the other, a cast bronze spigot which carries a rubber hose. I am not quite convinced about its being a sacrificial part as that would depend on surface area in contact with the water which, in this case is quite small. Whilst the surface was suffering a bit, it was nothing like the inside of the tanks. They went predominently next to the brass tube plate.

It has certainly prompted some interesting thoughts and I can't see why they didn't just put a bit more metal on the pattern. I don't think the cracks will cause me a problem but it will be easy enough to replace if necessary. I have, however, made the replacement studs from stainless steel so that should slow the corrosion down a bit.

Steve   🙂

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Home straight now!  I have been assembling all the bits. firstly by fitting studs..

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They were too long! I went back and checked the originals and they are identical so not sure what went wrong there. I took them out, threaded them a bit more and shortened them before fore finally fitting them.

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Then I got to the end ones and they were too short! They are identical to the originals but then I remembered that two studs had no nuts on them. I have made new ones.

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And for the top tank. This time, I cut the main gasket first. This is from rubberized cork, as recommended by Steve at CPA radiators.

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I treated the gaskets with 'Heldite' which had been recommended to me. It is very like the old 'Foliac' jointing and smells pretty bad. Works OK though.

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Then the water return. This time the studs were too long. I don't know how I managed to make such a mess of them. Oh well.

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And the filler neck after a bit of Brasso.

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The core still carries a lot of water stains so I had a go at cleaning it with soapy water and a scrubbing brush.

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This morning, I fitted the side castings and stuck the gasket down with Heldite. Amazingly, all of the holes lined up.

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Even more amazingly, the holes lined up in the bottom tank as well and I didn't have to poke a drill through any of them which was most satisfying.

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Turn it over and on to the top tank.

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That fitted OK as well so really making progress now.

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The moment of truth. Will it fit?

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The answer was no! The radiator tie-rod eye fouled the underside of the bonnet frame. I don't know how I managed that but in the end, just sprung it up and over the top.

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Spot the deliberate mistake! I fitted the outlet spigot the wrong way up!

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That was soon sorted and I cleaned and fitted the return pipe and the overflow. The rest of the engine is still filthy but that is a job for another day.

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The moment of truth! Filled to the brim with water coming out of the overflow but no leaks. Amazing.

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A whole lorry again!

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I swung it and it fired on the fifth compression which isn't bad after standing for over a year. I let it idle until everything was hot and no leaks showed themselves. We have a lorry again!

Next job is to give it a good service and a thorough clean and out for a test run. Let's hope the weather is nice again next weekend.

Steve   😁

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Yes, it doesn't look much different apart from a year's dust all over it!

The line is essential as I have 1 1/2" each side of the wing mirrors and if the back end is off by a couple of inches, I will either foul my compressor or make it difficult to walk down the side. It could really have done with being about three feet wider but nobody has a big enough shed do they!

Steve   😄

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Thanks Niels. Certainly our lorry and we have some very similar books on file. Let's hope they find a good home!

I am pleased to report that we did 37 miles on Sunday around the local villages and Tim has had his first driving lesson! He didn't do badly but needs some more practice with the gearbox. Now we can take two out at once!

Steve  🙂

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On 12/20/2021 at 5:48 PM, Rambowot said:

Hello guys. Congratulations from France for your awesome job. Do you know where I could get some plans or général dimensions of the Dennis Lorry, because I'm modelising one to print it at 72th scale. See you soon.

Hi Rambo.

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What sort of models do you make? Do you have any photos you could share with us?

Steve  🙂

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Hello old bill.

First, many thanks for your answer and you plan is quite what I was waiting for ! What sort of photos are you thinking of ? If it's Dennis truck, unfortunately, I don't have any more than those on your site 😒... but they are a big source of interest for me 😃. Again many thanks for your plan .

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