haybaggerman Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I was wondering what will be sold in large numbers next. In the past there has been clear outs of abbots, ferrets, saracens, stollys, fv 432's, cvrts, etc etc and most recently green goddesses. All of the above are now disposed of and in the hands of owners, or scrapped, but whats coming along now? Saxons perhaps? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) All of the above are now disposed of and in the hands of owners, or scrapped, but whats coming along now? Saxons perhaps? Withams had loads of Saxons a while back.. http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm200708/cmhansrd/cm080708/text/80708w0008.htm Armoured Fighting Vehicles: Sales Daniel Kawczynski: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what control his Department has over who the ultimate owners are of armoured personnel carriers being sold by his Department to Witham (Specialist Vehicles) Ltd; [216482] (2) how many decommissioned armoured personnel carriers have been sold abroad in each year since 2006; [216485] (3) how many Saxon armoured personnel carriers have been sold by his Department to Witham (Specialist Vehicles) Ltd. [216486] Mr. Bob Ainsworth: The Department does not sell armoured personnel carriers to Witham (Specialist Vehicles) Ltd. The company acts as the selling agent for surplus MOD vehicles under the terms of an incentive-based contract. The receipts from sale are shared in an agreed proportion between the company and the Department. All surplus equipment sold into the commercial marketplace is demilitarised and declassified. In that event, when vehicles are purchased from Witham to be exported outside the United Kingdom, purchasers are obliged to comply with normal UK export licence regulations. The Department has no control over the ultimate owner of the vehicles. Between 1 January 2006 and 3 July 2008, 44 Saxon vehicles were sold on behalf of the Department. The Department does not hold information on which of those vehicles purchased to date remain within the United Kingdom and which have been exported. Daniel Kawczynski: To ask the Secretary of State for Defence for what reasons his Department is selling armoured personnel carriers. [216483] Mr. Bob Ainsworth: The Saxon General War Role (Saxon GWR) is being removed from service and sold because it no longer meets the requirements of the Army, and has been declared obsolete. </H3> Edited November 15, 2009 by Marmite!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 I was wondering what will be sold in large numbers next. In the past there has been clear outs of abbots, ferrets, saracens, stollys, fv 432's, cvrts, etc etc and most recently green goddesses. All of the above are now disposed of and in the hands of owners, or scrapped, but whats coming along now? Saxons perhaps? Paul All remaining Saxons have been sold in one lot to Jordan, you will not see any more sold privatly in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 There are still thousands of Bedfords (TM and MJ) to come through Withams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 There are still thousands of Bedfords (TM and MJ) to come through Withams. A load of MJ's have been sold off in Kenya by the MoD, it saved them shipping home from there and made them more money. Makes sense really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Was up there at the weekend and saw 2 Chieftains in the yard. Possibly will be in the next tender sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The Leyland Daf Fleet will also presumably be released with the Bedfords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 the diesel cvrts have to be on the way out soon....they will be good, but i suspect that a lot of this could be going to other users in the world...the army is getting wise to the sale of these things and their value... us collectors will be left out in the cold a bit I suspect.... in europe most of the ex soviet block countries are re arming with european equipment and replacing it all...there will be loads of ex russian stuff about soon...trouble is prices have gone silyy because a lot of african and balkan states are buying them up at big ticket prices...bad news again for us collectors... t 55's up at 20k and rising, t72's up to 30k and rising, bmps 15 k and rising, brdms 8-9k and rising.... I understand that the czech army are getting rid of 750 BMP-1's thats a lot of toys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Czech ones are OT-90s like Neil's, aren't they? Better spec... Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 They had (have?) both mate - the OT's apparently were converted as part of an Arms Limitation deal on IFV's - hence the replacement turret with a high-angle HMG mount. Incidentally - I note on the latest adverts on MilWeb that RME have OT-90's at £19,500 +VAT - that's £6,000 more than I paid for mine before having all the VOSA requested work done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haybaggerman Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 They had (have?) both mate - the OT's apparently were converted as part of an Arms Limitation deal on IFV's - hence the replacement turret with a high-angle HMG mount. Incidentally - I note on the latest adverts on MilWeb that RME have OT-90's at £19,500 +VAT - that's £6,000 more than I paid for mine before having all the VOSA requested work done. That rise in price makes it a good investment then? Apart from the VOSA stuff but they get us all eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoggyDriver Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I was at 10 Signal Regt today and a Withams truck was there collecting two comms/office box bodies and a forklift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 There are still thousands of Bedfords (TM and MJ) to come through Withams. I was at a local TA unit the other day, talking to a friend that is attached there. This a R.E.M.E workshops unit. I was informed that I should note the registration numbers of thier vehicles,as they were ALL going to be disposed of soon. The reason for this is, these vehicles are VERY low mileage & have seen little use! They are Bedford MJ's, BUT, I know Witham already have access to large stocks of War reserve already. They had the New replacement trailers there for the Wolf. This replaces the Sankey widetrack, which also is going to be entirely removed from service & replaced with this trailer. Whithams already have thousands of the sankeys, so many that the bad ones are being scrapped. usefull for spares IF you can nogotiate a sensible price from Sutherington! :coffee: Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 hmm its an interesting scene right now...trouble is these vehicles are coming out and are being subjected to Euro regulations, it wont be long before they will be illegal on all roads everywhere...no more playing with them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Harriers, by the sounds of the news this morining... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Theyll flog off a heap of Mastifs, and then buy them back again at a higher price, they have plenty of previous for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Harriers, by the sounds of the news this morining... I want a harrier... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Witterings gate guardian will presumably be going if the base closes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 the diesel cvrts have to be on the way out soon... I was going to suggest that since Whole Fleet Management seems to have worked to HMG's satisfaction wrt CR2, I could well imagine them pulling the same stunt with Scimitars so that users get one to play with odd day / even day / day without a Y in it / year divides by 1700 / etc etc. There are 104 new latest upgrade Scimitars in the sandpit (taken by the LD BG this year). The rest will be decimated because people won't need them for real. Cynical? Bitter and twisted? Moi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Without wishing to stray into the realms of the dreaded P word - I think the thing a lot of people would love to see the MoD clear out next would be the MoD managements desks!! Might make Military Procurement at bit more effective.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recymech66 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 All remaining Saxons have been sold in one lot to Jordan, you will not see any more sold privatly in the UK. I guess they forgot about these 2 then :cool2: Maybe coming to an auction near you soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Those are some seriously ugly modifications :rofl: Are those 'batwings' like the NI Pig ones? EOD maybe? Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recymech66 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) Those are some seriously ugly modifications :rofl: Are those 'batwings' like the NI Pig ones? EOD maybe? Stone Left over from the NI days mate. Or if your on about the things on the front, "we can't talk about that" Edited January 24, 2010 by recymech66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Left over from the NI days mate. Gotcha, had only ever seen the non-batwing version...(so that one's a Saxon Patrol?) They look pretty spiffy in sand! What happened to the Alvis Simba? Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Interesting to learn the bulk have gone to Jordan. I DO like the batwing desert version. One would look nice with the MUTT. Ugly buggers, though - but always good to see some of them saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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