Snapper Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Catweazle John, there isn't much I can say to you and I can't pretend I know how you feel. That would be bullzhit. If I get the chop in January, which is 50-50 I might cry into my hubcaps - but until then I'll be soldiering on. It's quite easy really. Jack is a supreme optimist, he wants to make the best out of any situation. It doesn't work for everyone. He ain't no guru. But I like what he says and I think his heart is firmly in the right place. I look forward to seeing everybody at some time in the months ahead. I think having something to do - be it MVs, collecting bottle tops or ballroom dancing, is what keeps us sane. This is most important. I won't let the bastards grind me down - in english or latin (thanks TB!). Losing your motors after all your hard work would be tragic, but your livelihoods and families have to come first. God speed, MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Well if old Trafford(CW)gets rid of the champ,then it wont be long before a few of us will be looking to downsize or looking for new homes,as we share his premises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I think you might just as well retire now CW, if the mandarins in Europe get their way with the proposed new barmy idea all independents in the motor trade including all the factors and aftermarket manufacturers will be shut down. www.r2rc.co.uk These people couldnt lay in bed straight mate,the day they do something for the benifit of europe will be like VE day all over again.:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Having been through hard times myself I can understand the feelings here, but if you think positive it can be overcome you just have to extend yourselves, again easy to say (been there, done it) but it can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 This country is in a mess right now and my sympathy goes out to those who fear for their jobs, but I like Jack and Mark's optimism, be flexible, think outside the box, the only way is up! I started working for myself the day after I got my mortgage through in 1975 as knew I couldn't afford to pay it on the measly wages I was getting, and yes I fibbed! It was very hard to get one at all those days! I started with three days work ahead of me and never had a plan, just did any sort of work to earn money, my dad said it doesn't matter what you do as long as you learn something every day, you soon find your niche. Lived through the last two recessions but this one seems worse, I've just retired and out of it now, but enjoyed it immensely. I would say to anyone looking for a job, work for someone else and you will be too busy working to make any money, work for yourself learn a privately marketable skill and go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ives Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 well i work as a freelance coach driver and for me times are starting to get tight but i will continue to do as many shows as i can the main ones will be spta,horndean,mil mayhem and a few locally in sussex i will admit some of the drivers for some of the componies that i work for are seriously struggeling and even the local bus company has now been sold off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ives Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 and of course the provost team will be at the bunker bash in may:yay::yay:sorry for leaving you guys out of the list but you are a special event where we will be working the weekend not just having fun:n00b::police: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 This country is in a mess right now and my sympathy goes out to those who fear for their jobs, but I like Jack and Mark's optimism, be flexible, think outside the box, the only way is up! Right - us three need to get together work out a plan for everyone else :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo1969 Posted December 4, 2008 Author Share Posted December 4, 2008 I'm thinking of becoming a bus driver, regular money and paid holidays. Anyone on here drive a bus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 For my sins, :shake: I drive for a company in London. Youv'e hit the good points. If I published the bad points I'd be banned Censored and shot at dawn. There are a hell of a lot of changes going on in the industry at the moment with new technology in London and the EEC Drivers CPC. But the pay at least in London ain't bad PM if it's a TfL company and I'll try and give you some more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Victor kyam the man who loved the product so much he bought the company.once said the best time to start a business was in a recession, His example was in office stationary,He said companys needed to buy less but there suppliers had minium orders.So you sell them only what they need and when things pick up they will stick with you. He also wrote a book called Alice in Wonderland under another name. I think some of the views are simplistic.When you are contracted and it isnt working and you think a change would be good,the contract wont go away.Fine Mr John of you go do something else,yeah right,before you go would you like to pay the lease up its just £56.000.Not a limited co,never mind sell your house pay of the mortgage and we will have the rest. All the people who have the answers are in a position of strength,havnt come across one failed business man living in the arches in london yet who has the answer.Lots of business that fails due to outside influence and not down to the fact that people didnt know what they were doing. I started in the street with £80 on return from Africa,I didnt really wont to work on L/R products any more as i had been doing it since 1974. People i kept bumping into kept nagging me to work on them so it started all over again,Was it worth it,I have enjoyed the challenge to some degree But if i add up all the hours spent it was for a pitence really.I am sure there are plenty on here who can relate to that.My dad told me to learn maths as the whole world revolved around figures,i hated maths.looking back now i reckon he was right,You can get things totally wrong and ruin thousands of peoples lives and still be rewarded if you know your maths. I wouldnt encourage youngsters to enter this game,its over we are the last.We will be joining the shoe menders,watchmakers. i would like to be able to get thro till the end of the lease. Then cross the channell,in the likes of this and put it all behind me. Note the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I do sometimes think the biggest mistake you can make in life is be decent honest hard working and truthful. (Midnight miserys of Grumpy Old Men) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Chin's up lads (Which one you choose at our age) we have survived these before and will do so again, CW has my attitude "finish up here and go touring". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ives Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 rambo tony and roger(redcap) both drive in london i used to drive buses when i first started and it wasnt bad but shiftwork and 12 hour days were not for me so i became a coach driver i know some companys pay you to do the licence and all the paperwork but you are stuck with them for a couple of years hope you get sorted out ok mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I wouldnt encourage youngsters to enter this game,its over we are the last.We will be joining the shoe menders,watchmakers. Not sure if we´re on the same page, but for a guy (or girl) in Holland with a sound technical background and not afraid to get their hands dirty, the employers line up in great numbers. We have welders, fitters, mechanics, you name it, coming from all over Europe and beyond working here. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Catweazle would have some commute! Mind you he has the transport judging by the last photos! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Catweazle would have some commute! Mind you he has the transport judging by the last photos! :-D Well, at least his ship would feel perfectly at home in Holland's waterways! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I must admit I'd love the time and money to mooch round the european waterways. Anyone got a spare Assfart? :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Victor kyam the man who loved the product so much he bought the company.once said the best time to start a business was in a recession,His example was in office stationary,He said companys needed to buy less but there suppliers had minium orders.So you sell them only what they need and when things pick up they will stick with you. He also wrote a book called Alice in Wonderland under another name. I think some of the views are simplistic.When you are contracted and it isnt working and you think a change would be good,the contract wont go away.Fine Mr John of you go do something else,yeah right,before you go would you like to pay the lease up its just £56.000.Not a limited co,never mind sell your house pay of the mortgage and we will have the rest. All the people who have the answers are in a position of strength,havnt come across one failed business man living in the arches in london yet who has the answer.Lots of business that fails due to outside influence and not down to the fact that people didnt know what they were doing. I started in the street with £80 on return from Africa,I didnt really wont to work on L/R products any more as i had been doing it since 1974. People i kept bumping into kept nagging me to work on them so it started all over again,Was it worth it,I have enjoyed the challenge to some degree But if i add up all the hours spent it was for a pitence really.I am sure there are plenty on here who can relate to that.My dad told me to learn maths as the whole world revolved around figures,i hated maths.looking back now i reckon he was right,You can get things totally wrong and ruin thousands of peoples lives and still be rewarded if you know your maths. I wouldnt encourage youngsters to enter this game,its over we are the last.We will be joining the shoe menders,watchmakers. i would like to be able to get thro till the end of the lease. Then cross the channell,in the likes of this and put it all behind me. Note the name. What a boat!.Can you actually live on that all year round?.Or are you limited to so many months a year?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Quick Query! Why the ** do you need Sat Nav on a RIVER BOAT? :n00b: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Quick Query! Why the ** do you need Sat Nav on a RIVER BOAT? :n00b: :rofl::rofl::rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Quick Query! Why the ** do you need Sat Nav on a RIVER BOAT? :n00b: This boat is built to offshore standards,allowing coastal passages,english channell crossing,have a look at the size of the inland waters in Holland. It also has the bigger engine.:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 :rofl::rofl::rofl: See previous post:pfrt::captain: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 It also has the bigger engine.:-D Oh, 6LXB eh? :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 What a boat!.Can you actually live on that all year round?.?. Yes.and if you move every couple of days its free,apart from the river licence.:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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