Adam Elsdon Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 In the world of classic cars, there is plenty of snob value attached to vehicles, and if yours is different or doesnt fit the established norm, they pretty much seem to get shunned. Now here is one for the MV scene, my mate came on a run with me in the Pig to the pub on our monthly pub run meet, and mentioned that it would be good to have something to turn up in, but the wife would probably do her nut if he bought anything else (He has a few motorbikes!) Anyway a few weeks later im stood in his yard next to an LDV van, looks a bit like the old Sherpa, and just like the ones that we had on bases in the RAF. It turns out he bought it at auction, and it was an ex army LDV minibus! so in actual fact he does have a Military Vehicle!!! he looked kind of incredulous when i mentioned that he is now part of the gang!!!!!! But classic or future classic MV? you decide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 yep, definatly a mv, the jeep/ww11 vehicle owners wont agree though!!!!:evil: Mark :cool: ps, anybody got a transit naafi van? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted November 2, 2008 Author Share Posted November 2, 2008 Would just look wrong with all those Hotchpotch jeeps in Normandy!! The right era for your lot though!!:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ives Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 if it had a military reg then its a mv even the old chevettes would count as they all served in the military as transports fair enougth some wouldnt count it as such but without standerd vehicles where would the services be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 if it had a military reg then its a mv even the old chevettes would count as they all served in the military as transportsfair enougth some wouldnt count it as such but without standerd vehicles where would the services be I remember seeing Marina pickups in USAF markings in olive drab, at Greenham Common airbase. An ex-USAF Sherpa dropside truck has been to Beltring several times. Seem to recollect seeing a Lada 4x4 with RAF reg number at an air station somewhere. :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 I remember seeing Marina pickups in USAF markings in olive drab, at Greenham Common airbase. An ex-USAF Sherpa dropside truck has been to Beltring several times. Seem to recollect seeing a Lada 4x4 with RAF reg number at an air station somewhere. :confused: The Lada wasnt on an Air Weapons Range was it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 The Lada wasnt on an Air Weapons Range was it! Probably as a range target ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 The Lada wasnt on an Air Weapons Range was it!The USAFE were big users of the Sherpa.go knows what they thought of them,because they were an absolute pile of s**t.Now they dont have an euro trucks or vans in there inventory.Its all Ford F250,s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markheliops Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 If it served with the forces and was issued a military number plate - it has a military service record. In my book - that makes it a military vehicle and is worthy of being maintained and kept in the way other MV's are looked after - pile of junk or not. In 30 odd years time - the Sherpa will be looked at as any other MV with history. Markheliops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I remember the Marinas at Greenham as well. Wish I'd snapped one. One of my former neighbours ran an ex USAF LDV panel van. I think they all count. Ok, they are far from exciting compared to something pointy, but an MV is an MV. MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 A few years ago I went to MVS with a friend to pick up a load of spares, included were 3 stillages of new Suzuki SJ parts, engines gearboxes axles diffs etc. (very cheap!) Apparently a couple had been in service and these were the spares for them. Any one ever seen one in service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil P Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 A friend of mine works for the UN based in Cyprus. He sent me a few pics of vehicles in UN service. Hell fire there is a right mottley collection. I suppose they are not strictly military or are they? I did spot a Lada Riva among them. It's to dry even for one of those to rot away while you are watching it in Cyprus. Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 If it served with the forces and was issued a military number plate - it has a military service record. In my book - that makes it a military vehicle and is worthy of being maintained and kept in the way other MV's are looked after - pile of junk or not. I agree on the first bit. The second bit is really about your definition of military vehicle, or even Historic Military Vehicle for that matter: a) any vehicle that was acquired and used by the armed forces; b) any vehicle which was purposely built for acquisition and use by the armed forces. The first category contains the likes of the vehicle in question here: ones that were designed and built for the commercial/civilian market, but can fullfill a certain military role with a few additions (paint, lighting, fire extinguisher, first aid kit etc). The second category speaks for itself I think. I think it is all about one´s personal interest if any type of vehicle is worth being kept. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 A few years ago I went to MVS with a friend to pick up a load of spares, included were 3 stillages of new Suzuki SJ parts, engines gearboxes axles diffs etc. (very cheap!) Apparently a couple had been in service and these were the spares for them. Any one ever seen one in service? Never even heard of that one, maybe they were bought as a trial/test machine and then binned? or even a local purchase by a unit for an event or something and then passed out through the supply chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I agree on the first bit. The second bit is really about your definition of military vehicle, or even Historic Military Vehicle for that matter: a) any vehicle that was acquired and used by the armed forces; b) any vehicle which was purposely built for acquisition and use by the armed forces. The first category contains the likes of the vehicle in question here: ones that were designed and built for the commercial/civilian market, but can fullfill a certain military role with a few additions (paint, lighting, fire extinguisher, first aid kit etc). The second category speaks for itself I think. I think it is all about one´s personal interest if any type of vehicle is worth being kept. H. I agree with Marks comments.If its seen service in the forces.Then its worth preserving no matter what it is.How many civvi type trucks,pick-ups,and staff cars from the 50,s and 60,s that served in the forces are there around today?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 The Lada wasnt on an Air Weapons Range was it! No, it was at RAF Manston, a few years ago now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewroberts.1953 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Yes, the MOD bought large numbers of Morris 1000 for bomb disposal units, etc. and like rocking horse poo! If it's not kept now, it will be gone in the future. This why we see so few just post 45 british vehicles, no-one thought these were worth keeping. Bedford supplied 10's of thousends of RL's, again were are these vehicles? Most have been scrapped, but several generations of men spent many hours in them. Military vehicles are not all olive drab, with a white star on. How about the special cars used by covert units in NI, not worth keeping, not a military vehicle? The modern white RAF police motor bikes that escorted nuclear weapons? If it served, no matter how it's military and needs to be preserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 totally agree. Ok, much of this stuff is hardly exciting - but neither is a procession of jeeps or land rovers if you have no greater love. It's down to the importance of preservation...but I suppose turning up to an MV rally in a Ford Escort estate is a little dull (I remember my army recruiter at Holloway had one with a military registration). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 The poll result isnt exactly a runaway landside result for the van is it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Oh dear ........looks like MV rallies could end up looking like a Tescos car park, full of Escorts, Minis, Cortinas, Hillman Hunters and Huskys, Minors, Chevettes, Cavaliers with the odd Sherpa van :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris c8 fat Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 On a patrol in deepest Dunganon late 70s troopy spots the sherpa coming down the road now as we all know the only ones with landrovers or sherpers were HM Forces and it was the covert pick up van. So as it stops at the junction all jump in Troopy in the front he does the old double take spots the driver is old Mc d from a local farm. To his credit Troopy didnt bat an eye lid but shouted "ok boys this ones clean lets go and all bailed out see they are not all urban myths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Oh dear ........looks like MV rallies could end up looking like a Tescos car park, full of Escorts, Minis, Cortinas, Hillman Hunters and Huskys, Minors, Chevettes, Cavaliers with the odd Sherpa van:rofl: Soon to be no future in those Daimler Dingo and CMP restorations Richard !!:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Soon to be no future in those Daimler Dingo and CMP restorations Richard !!:-D I think MV collectors will always go for the unusual, out of the ordinary and rarer vehicles, ...............says he hopefully . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Dare i say it...like a Sherpa minibus in white, full CES... First Aid Kit, Fire Extinguisher and Paperwork Folder, with the obligatory empty pop bottle, crisp bag and Jazz mag in the back. dont see many of them at Beltring i wager! :n00b: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Dare i say it...like a Sherpa minibus in white, :n00b: Adam, From my experience of them........they came in any colour.........except green! Red, White, Blue.......... Going back further, there were Bedford CF vans, and further still Austin or Morris JU250, now theres a classic :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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