Sylvester Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Hi Folks, As the new owner of a WW2 truck, I have been reading through the reprinted original workshop manual and .... Don't know what the modern = of these oils are? 30 HD - Engine oil C.600 -Axles, Gearbox, Transfer box etc etc. Grease No.2 & No.3 And is Brake fluid No.3 the same as Dot 3?? Any help would be appreciated Please! All the best Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil P Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Hi Fred. I ordered some 30HD oil from Stuart Lubricants in Wolverhampton and when it arrived it said HD30 on the drum. C600 is EP140 grease No3 was Shell Retinax A and Brake fluid No 3 is DOT 3. I have run my Hippo on these lubricants for 25 years. OK the engine has now been changed to a Cummins and runs modern multigrade but the rest is the same. The transfer box uses Hypoy 90. If you are still not convinced rind Stuart Lubricants and speak to there Tech Department. They are really helpful people and can provide you with Data sheets. 01902 877600. They also do MIL Spec oils and can convert the MIL Spec numbers to something understandable. I changed the Hippo engine after a rear main bearing failed. E173 engines were known for it. The Cummins came along with a 5 speed synchro Spicer 'box 40'000 miles for £700 pounds Delivered. It's got more power (35BHP) revs higher and the Hippo does 16MPG on the motorway at 45MPH. I have achieved 18.5MPG going to Dover. Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 C600 is definately not the same as EP140. It has a similar viscosity but the additives in EP oils are not for use with yellow metals and C600 is. In many cases, there is no problem but it would pay to check your gearbox/steering box first. The nearest equivelant I found was Shell Valvata but any non EP gear oil should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Batchelor Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I would agee C600 equates to a straight 140 weight oil. I use SAE30 oil for the engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The nearest equivelant I found was Shell Valvata but any non EP gear oil should be fine. Adrian, Another equivalent to C600 is Morris Lubricants AG140, a straight 140 gear oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Come on then Fred, give us the details. If you've got a QL you need to talk to Richard F, I think he wrote the manual:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Come on then Fred, give us the details. If you've got a QL you need to talk to Richard F, I think he wrote the manual:-D :-D:-D:-D Degsy, quite a few PM's having been going back and fore already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvester Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 Oh Yes!! If you wanna a strait answer....ask someone who knows eh?? So I Did!! Good old Richard! Thanks Matey, Fred & Annika PS. She is a QL D cargo, just like my Dad drove throughout D Day+1 and all through the War untill 1946demob. She's a bute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Oh Yes!!If you wanna a strait answer....ask someone who knows eh?? So I Did!! Good old Richard! Thanks Matey, Fred & Annika PS. She is a QL D cargo, just like my Dad drove throughout D Day+1 and all through the War untill 1946demob. She's a bute! Well done Fred, got a soft spot for QL's, as a kid used to help with the boats on Blackpool beach just to get a ride in the QL's and Bren carriers. Happy days:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvester Posted October 10, 2008 Author Share Posted October 10, 2008 Well done Fred, got a soft spot for QL's, as a kid used to help with the boats on Blackpool beach just to get a ride in the QL's and Bren carriers.Happy days:-D Hi Degsy, My reason for buying the old girl is because my Dad used to drive one during the war, so as me and the Mrs now dress up as my mum n dad for the 40's nights, we thought we would go WW2 and so sold the old Ferret (Boo Hoo, Sob Sob) But looking foward to it All the Best Fred & Annika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Hi Degsy, My reason for buying the old girl is because my Dad used to drive one during the war, so as me and the Mrs now dress up as my mum n dad for the 40's nights, we thought we would go WW2 and so sold the old Ferret (Boo Hoo, Sob Sob) But looking foward to it All the Best Fred & Annika Big difference from the Ferret Fred but I'm sure you'll enjoy it and it will be a perfect vehicle to turn up in style at the 40's events.:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil P Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Well damm my best boots. You give the folks that make the stuff the full spec and they sell you the wrong stuff. That was 20 years ago. Must get it out quick. Modern EP 140 doesn't cause 'Bronze gear degerdation.' Not according to my supplier. It doesn't contain the additives that are reputed to do it. Still each to his own. All I know is they supply it to me at a VERY good price. That way I change my oil twice a year. Standing for a week after a long run at a week end doesn't help oil. You can get a build up of condensation. I'm probably wrong though! I do on average 2000 miles plus in a year. I maintain the Hippo on my own including tyre swaps and enjoy the 'Bigun as much now as I did when I first found it 25 years ago. Phil P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Modern EP 140 doesn't cause 'Bronze gear degerdation. Yep we have been here before, crops up every couple of months. EP oils that are GL 4 or below will not attack bronze / yellow metals, GL5 EP oils have high sulphur content and will attack yellow / bronze metals. :coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 , Another equivalent to C600 is Morris Lubricants AG140, a straight 140 gear oil. Easily distiguished as it is a funky purple colour and is so thick that you can pick up drips from the can by hand and put them back! Used to put AG140 in AEC phosphour bronze worm and wheel diffs. Have seen one that had EP in it for years explode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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