Steifbear Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 hahahaha classic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Just a little bit of advice , it greatly extends the life of thre transfer box if you put it in neutral and put the main box in gear and run for a while to get the oil pumped round before driving off especially in cold weather , I was given this tip after having to replace the trans box on mine. :embarrassed: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big chris Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 there here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yyyyyiiiiipppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee how about that for a good load !!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEPAUL5 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Seeing the old Leyland recoverys brings back memories,mainly with 19 TNK TRNSP WKSP.we did somethings with them which quote they are not designed for that,eg. towing a ANTAR fully ballasted up the hill from Abagavenny to Crickowell (38 ton) 1st gear low ratio 6 wheel drive ,putting out all the legs including the big ones on the side, double sheaf pully block strain gauge fitted lifted the back of ballast antar up to deck level 32 ton I think the man from FVRDsaid also tested rear suspend dummy axle on Antar. We also transformed a recovery Leyland into a 3 man sleeper to be changed back to a working wagon within 3 minutes. Oh we did some recovery jobs with them as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Big Chris's Martian on Mull in 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRSCRS Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Here is our old Leyland Martian, it was very very rusty and everytime it was started up it would blow a pipe ! Hopefully someone out there has had it restored. Cheers Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Nice one on Ebay at the moment ! If only I had time money space etc etc ! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200602518276&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Nice one on Ebay at the moment ! If only I had time money space etc etc ! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200602518276&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT I agree that does look a nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83KB62 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 This one was at Abbey Hill, Yeovil, last week-end 1 May 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Luvverly :nut::-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted June 28, 2011 Author Share Posted June 28, 2011 Another one on Ebay ! Oh for a large barn !:-D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LEYLAND-MARTIAN-/120741682699?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item1c1cc3de0b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Another one on Ebay ! Oh for a large barn !:-D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LEYLAND-MARTIAN-/120741682699?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item1c1cc3de0b Same chap is selling a rather tidy looking Scammell Explorer too! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCAMMEL-EXPLORER-/120741678345?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item1c1cc3cd09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted June 28, 2011 Author Share Posted June 28, 2011 Same chap is selling a rather tidy looking Scammell Explorer too! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SCAMMEL-EXPLORER-/120741678345?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item1c1cc3cd09 Well spotted Norman ! I had just searched for Scammell Explorer but it never showed up due to incorrect spelling on ad. ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davhems Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 does any one know what happened to the one that was at killingworth camp near newcastle we used to practice recovery on it with the fodens in the early 1990,s when i was in 124 rec coy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbrook Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Just seen this thread - so heres the one (a cargo) that I took my HGV2 test on in 1977...... (the Martian is the one at the back..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listerdiesel Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Could someone indulge my curiosity regarding the drive train on the Martian, please? I think I read in this thread a mention of permanent 4 wheel drive, but that may have been in respect of another vehicle (Unipower) that was being discussed. Does the Martian have effectively the same rear drive as the Scammells, with walking beam bogie and locked 4 wheel drive, or is there some kind of inter-axle diff fitted? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Does the Martian have effectively the same rear drive as the Scammells, with walking beam bogie and locked 4 wheel drive, or is there some kind of inter-axle diff fitted? Hi Peter, The Martian has only one raer axle / diff, with walking beams as a Scammell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listerdiesel Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Hi Peter, The Martian has only one rear axle / diff, with walking beams as a Scammell Cheers, Richard, nice to get it right in my mind. Just the Constructor with the two propshafts then? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Just the Constructor with the two propshafts then? Peter Thats correct. What I should have said, was walking beams like the Pioneer and Explorer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listerdiesel Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Thats correct. What I should have said, was walking beams like the Pioneer and Explorer That's OK, I have been through all the galleries now and absorbed most of the detail, did Leyland copy the Scammell design, or was it just their own? Scammell ended up in the same group eventually, so there was a big blurring of identities as I see it. Sorry to ask so many questions! Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 It was a similar design the casings carrying the gear trains to each hub and wheel were somewhat bigger. The fundamental difference was that the single axle on the Scammell one was a worm and wheel drive whereas the Leyland one was a crownwheel and pinnion set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listerdiesel Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Thanks for the clarification and info, John. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Peter, to answer your earlier question, there was no way of locking the axle diff on either the Scammell or Leyland rear bogie. Each gear case drove the wheels at the same speed so it was prudent to use tyres with similar diameters on each side i.e. if you were fitting 2 new tyres then fit them to the same gear case. The Martian front axle is also quite unique in that it is a portal design in which the centre of the diff is above the centre of the hubs with the drive being transferred via bevel gears in line with the king pins. Again as with the Scammell there is no lockable diff. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
listerdiesel Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Thanks, Mike, I was trying to settle on what was and what wasn't available on the different transmission. Of the Scammell and Leyland variants, the Martian is possibly the most attractive in mechanical and visual terms, but needs something doing to the engine to make it a workable proposition. LPG is one option, but I'd be looking at a decent diesel if I was in the market. If it had a commercial gearbox that would take the power and torque, then a Cummins NH or something of that ilk would be good, 220bhp and loads of torque. On the other hand, if you were just running out to shows etc., then the B81 with LPG might well be OK. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 The problem with fitting a diesel is that the B81 revs to 3750 and even the smaller diesels are only fuel efficient up to about 1900rpm which rather limits your top speed. The B81 is very inefficient as it is a side exhaust/overhead inlet, about 6.5:1 compression which will give about 3.5mpg on a 14 ton cargo or gun tractor, less on a 23 ton recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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