flyingfleasteve Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 So I had a free afternoon today and with the Velocette restoration plodding on nicely I though its time to have a look at my 1939 BSA KC10. This bike is prehaps the rarist and most complete bike which I own with the orginal matching engine still fitted to the original frame, maybe the only one? 🤔 Due to other restorations skipping the que, it’s been some 6 years since I really looked at this bike where it’s been laid up on shelves. The plan……to get it all together, before striping it again. Good progress made already! Still plenty of parts still to fit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) Nice one Steve! hope you get the clutch sorted eventually, one of the most terrible and cheap designs in the world, failed to work from new! here my mate's KC10 restored by Ron, and further perfected by me. Lex Edited June 27, 2022 by welbike spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) And my KC10. Unfortunately not matching frame and engine. It came with a WC10 engine but I managed to do a swap with a guy as we both had the wrong engines. I have got a spare fork damper star washer if you need it. Ron Edited June 28, 2022 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 Both bikes look great gents! I have boxes of bits which I’m slowly sorting through, but it appears the bits I’m missing are the rear mudguard stays and foot pegs. Unfortunately the original headlamp and red dot ammeter are also gone but I am sure I can source them over time. I seem to recall the KC10 ammeter was slightly different to the WC10? I could be making that up…… Ron, I am actually missing the fork damper star washer, so can I please put my name on your spare 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 The red dot ammeter was used on both KC10 and WC10 Steve. Here is the correct wartime type. It has a domed glass. The second picture is the post war version (flat glass) remind me your address again by email Steve and I'll send you the washer. Ron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 Thanks Ron. That clears up my thoughts on the Ammeter/s. I am intrigued to know just how’s many of the 1939 KC10’s and the 1940 WC10’s are still left in existence. Has anyone kept a register? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Are you taking 1939/40 C10's in general or just WD? The only register that I know of is what Owen tries to keep up here https://bsac10c11c12.co.uk/smf/index.php. I'm not sure how complete it is or if he distinguishes between civy and WD. Either way, not that many. There is also a mix of 39 and 40 parts and WD and civy parts. I guess I've looked yours up Steve, but I've forgotten it. Can you post or send me your frame number please. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 There's at least 4 in Holland, but don't have the other numbers, except the one above, but that is known anyway. Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Steve I just remembered that the KC models didn't have matching numbers. They were all mixed up from the start. The WD WC10's did have matching numbers. After the WD WC10 contract the numbers got mixed up again as the same frame was used for the C10's/11's/12's. I think I can see your engine number, I can look it up if you want if you confirm by PM. Something is not right!? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Slowly going through the several boxes of bits, yesterday I found most of the primary drive components. It appears that my next hurdle is to find both footrests and all rear mudguard stays…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Jan has the patterns for the rear stays and rear carrier. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Jan, if you are going to make one, then I'll have one too, easier to make two at the same time. Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share Posted October 6, 2022 Funnily enough I have the rear carrier, it’s just the stays I am after. I am slowly getting hold of some of the small missing items….found a nice red dot ammeter I few weeks ago… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 (edited) Did you find the correct war-time 8-8 Red Dot with the domed glass Steve? Ron Edited October 6, 2022 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 Hi Ron, Mine is identical but with flat glass, I know the domed glass ones are HARD to find….I will keep looking 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted October 17, 2022 Author Share Posted October 17, 2022 So it looks as if I had some of the missing bits all along! 😂 I spend this afternoon reconstructing the rear end. Still some fabrication to to do but it’s starting to come together. I finally got around to removing the rear number plate, low and behold a white triangle is painted on the bottom of the mudguard. I have no idea what it signifies, has anyone any idea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Probably just for blackout measures Steve, like the white edges to wings and mudguards. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Is the triangle painted onto the pre-July 1939 Dull Bronze Green ? The white triangle was the 1st Infantry Division formation sign...perhaps used by them when they returned to the UK after losing all their transport in France in 1940 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 Yes. It appears the triangle is painted onto the dull bronze green. Its strange it was under the number plate. I have seen plenty of period motorcycles with the white tips to the mudguard but this triangle intrigued me. The bike itself is 90% original, it’s nice to find these little gems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 So I have now found the tool box but I have no idea how it fits to the bike/frame? 🤔 Ron, help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Steve it fits with two tube spacers to the back of the battery carrier. I'll see if I can work out the length tomorrow 1/2" maybe? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Steve I can't get to the spacers to measure them. I'll see if I can look them up sometime. But if you line the lid up with the saddle mount like this you can't be far out. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I'll have a look later today, but my toolbox has a different lock on it. Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfleasteve Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 Ron, thanks for that, much appreciated. This gives me the information I need to press forward. Are part lists/manuals available for the rigid C10? probably a good idea I invest in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I thought I'd sent you the 1939 and 1940 parts lists? I'm not aware of any WD parts lists for these? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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