Blackpowder44 Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Having a clear out and found this A frame, it is 9 1/2 long and the distance between jaws is 43 inches. I have no idea what vehicle this is made to recover and any help would be much appreciated as I will sell it but need to know what it fits on, thanks, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 whats at the other end of the poles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder44 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Pictures of the end of the tow arm as requested, John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder44 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Please, someone must know what vehicle this Aframe is for, John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 it looks like it's strong enough to tow a tank but it's only a guess but it does look ww2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder44 Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 it looks like it's strong enough to tow a tank but it's only a guess but it does look ww2 Rick, please check your pm box, John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 When i saw first photo i thought US but ends on second pic smack of British. Sorry i dont know plus i fail to see how it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 cheers john pm sent could it be for a porpoise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Are the ends rotated slightly compared to the next set of holes (which look straight)? That makes me think of vehicles where the towing points are angled. Could it be for Conger, and the two sets of holes adapt for two types of carrier used as the base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 One end looks right - See photos here - http://www.dieselpunks.org/profiles/blogs/the-explosive-eel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 you might be onto something there lauren ! john has agreed to sell the A frame to me and I just happen to own a Churchill AVRE and a Bren carrier :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 you might be onto something there lauren ! john has agreed to sell the A frame to me and I just happen to own a Churchill AVRE and a Bren carrier :cool2: Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippotastic Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I have an A frame nearly exactly the same as this along with the pins to locate it. I removed it off the side of a rather nice ex mod jcb loading shovel a few years ago!! Mine will fold flat though as it has a pivot on one side at the towing ring end. If anybody wants another then let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attleej Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Dear All, I don't think that it for a Conqueror. It is too spindly and would bend at first corner. How about a vehicle with a long jib? Also are we sure that the extensions are to be joined together? Can we have a close up of the butterfly at the apex? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Dear All, I don't think that it for a Conqueror. John The suggestion was Conger, which was a universal carrier based, rocket launched explosive filled pipe used for mine clearance. The carrier hull was towed behind Churchill AVRE on an A frame that looked a lot like the frame in question. I agree that a Conqueror Hollebone is much bigger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I bought the A frame from john and as far as I know it is for towing the conger mine clearance device. i'd like to mock up my carrier and tow it behind the avre but I doubt I will ever get to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz48 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 An observation without some kind of known item as a reference in the photo’s it’s difficult to gauge the A-frame dimensions. The slight bias on the open ends I think indicate it fits directly to whatever is intended to tow so giving the centres of the fixed towing point for what’s being towed rather than as in the photo of a carrier with an adapter. Reasoning being the fewer moving parts the more rigidity and control over the tow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I have an A frame nearly exactly the same as this along with the pins to locate it. I removed it off the side of a rather nice ex mod jcb loading shovel a few years ago!! Mine will fold flat though as it has a pivot on one side at the towing ring end. If anybody wants another then let me know. That would be off a JCB 410M the transmission could be disengaged so it could be towed at convoy speed using that A Bar. Towing vehicle would be Militant cargo or such like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 An observation without some kind of known item as a reference in the photo’s it’s difficult to gauge the A-frame dimensions. The slight bias on the open ends I think indicate it fits directly to whatever is intended to tow so giving the centres of the fixed towing point for what’s being towed rather than as in the photo of a carrier with an adapter. Reasoning being the fewer moving parts the more rigidity and control over the tow. The peculiar thing on the originally posted one is the two sets of holes - one appearing straight and one appearing angled. It's not a general purpose one as the vee is at a fixed angle itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I've found a surviving conger carrier in the overloon museum and I will donate my A frame to them as they have a replica at the moment, I can't think of a better place for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Don't remember seeing that when I visited, must be a new exhibit. Well worth a visit Rick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I was toying with the idea of taking it in person but I never seem to have enough time, maybe I will just have to make the time for it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I was toying with the idea of taking it in person but I never seem to have enough time, maybe I will just have to make the time for it ! Well worth making the time to make the trip, Ian B and I visited about 2 years ago, I can recommend some other places to visit if your doing a road trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 cheers john. I've always fancied a trip to Poland so I might combine the two as it's on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex van de Wetering Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Rick, Overloon also has an AVRE with 95mm, Cromwell, a number of carriers and other rare kit as an A30 Challenger, Valentine Bridgelayer, Crusader Gun tractor. Well worth a visit! The Conger project was done about 6 years ago; as far as I know it's the only surviving Conger. Carrier, armor plate and tank are original, the rest had disappeared over time and had to be remade based on info from pictures and valuable info supplied by Nigel Watson. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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