simon jameson Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Bought some equipment for my Militant Recovery and this item was amongst the gear, doesn't seem to belong to the Milly, does any one know what vehicle it fits and what its for??? The Milly wheel just for scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecyMech Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I'm not seeing a piccy....is it me ? H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Nope, not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave C Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Not here also :nut: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b2414 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I who’d say it’s the invisible thing e bob :nut::nut::nut: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northrecce Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Is it from a stealth bomber? :nut: :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon jameson Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 I'l try posting the pic again, must of been lost in cyber space!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commander Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Are you lot blind it's a picture of a snow ball lying in the snow Commander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon jameson Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Can anyone see this photo? Its doing my head in trying to upload, it doesnt seem to be working!! If you can see the photo can anyone enlighten me as to what this piece of equipment is & what vehicle it belongs to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave C Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Whoooo I see it !! but have not a glue what it is Sorry :readbook: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasSomT. Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I can see that one! Deep in my old memory I have seen a picture of one of those being used. Fixed to the front of a stationary vehicle, with the cable running at an angle from the winch vehicle round the offset pulley, and straight to the 'casualty' off the main, central pulley. Used where for some reason, the winching vehicle can't get in the best position for a straight pull. Don't ask me what vehicles, or when ('50s I should think) that's all I've got. Someone will be along soon, with the full NATO part No. don't worry :-) 'Chas.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Yes, called a FAIRLEAD - but I think it is used with the outer lugs pivoting vertically behind the winch (e.g. at rear of vehicle) it allows sideways pulling but rope enters drum in centre :-) Just like a dragline! Oops not that simple - needs another pair of rollers to be a full fairlead......... Edited November 21, 2012 by N.O.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RecyMech Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Hmmm, NOS's description of use is quite correct I reckon.....must be for fairly light winch loads though, any heavy side winching directly from the back of the vehicle pretty much renders any spade useless & was generally considered bad practice. As to what it was issued to though I'm stumped. I trained (such a long time ago) on Bedford Light (RL), AEC Medium (Mili Mk3), Leyland Martian & Cent & I don't recognise it being from any of those. (Deffo not Martian & Cent anyway) Can't see it being from any vehicle already fitted with a built in pivoting fairlead either. Samson maybe ? (wild stab) Cosrec might know....or at least be able to cross off a few other possibilities. H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Is it part of the FV432 winch kit? Will answer this myself, as just seen a photo, the mounting lugs are wrong for it, so No to above Edited November 21, 2012 by Richard Farrant reply to own question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Was there a smaller armoured tracked vehicle where the winch came through the lower section of the back door. Nagging doubt i have seen photo of one fitted when in winching mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Was there a smaller armoured tracked vehicle where the winch came through the lower section of the back door. Nagging doubt i have seen photo of one fitted when in winching mode. That sounds like the FV432, it had a winch kit installed in the rear crew compartment, but after posting I found a photo, but could not see the mounting eyes that this item is secured to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 The FV432 manual shows a fairlead assembly that forms the entire lower part of a shortened rear door rather than just a bracket, so it's not FV432. Are there any numbers or other markings on it? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Could be wrong but from size if pulleys in relation to wheel in background only small diameter rope. So that rules out main larger recovery winch equiped vehicles vehicles. although pin sizes of its atatchment pionts looks like its for some thing heavy Back to my original thoughts was there an armoured vehicle tracked or wheeled were the back door was in two parts and the winch was inside but had a longish roller mounted under the lip of the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Now heres a thought it is maybe a very rare piece of kit for a militant. i think its part of the kit for a Donaldson reactor that fits on on the last set of holes nearest the land anchor. If you find the rest of of it must be worth more than the truck its self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Doesn't someone have a Militant Recovery handbook detailing the load reactor? We could all go to bed then :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon jameson Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 Cosrec is correct and I should have stated this at the begining, the groove/guide in the pully's is not as large/deep as that of the standard fairlead for the Militant winch, so I would say its to take smaller rope than that fitted to the Militant winch, I have never tried to hitch it up to any of the eye mountings on the back of Milly but they do look to be roughly the same distance apart of that of the 'A FRAME' that goes onto those eye mountings, I'l try it and take a photo so you can all see and give commment, its the fact that the pully's are offset from centre of the frame????? Await the Photo, P.S. If you go to Transport & Wreakers you can see a pic of my Milly Mk3 and a little description of history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon jameson Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 Been up to workshop tonight, 1st photo, unidentified item sitting on spade of Milly It does line up with mounting lugs/holes, so maybe it is for the Milly????. 2nd photo remembered I got some other stuff on the same pallet of the unidentified item. 3rd &4th photo close ups of some items that may go with original unidentified item. 5th photo it sits inside of lugs on the front of the Foden EKA recovery so its not for that. Whats your thoughts???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 as i said iam pretty sure its for Donaldson reactor on militant but dont worry if you had all the parts you would never use it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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