cossy1 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Hi All With the exemption from MOT coming in on the 18th of November have DVLA produced a new exemption form for MOT. (form number 112) Regards Tony. Edited November 4, 2012 by cossy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammell 7377 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 is it not the case that there are no exemtptions other than pre 1960? if thats so there is no need for a new 112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 is it not the case that there are no exemtptions other than pre 1960? if thats so there is no need for a new 112 There are plenty of other exemptions so still a need for a V112 http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_065277.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Isn't this form only for first registration? You should find that once a vehicle has been taxed as exempt, the tax renewal merely requires you to put a X in the 'mot exempt' box. This way the responsibility is yours alone to ensure the exemption remains valid when taxing the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossy1 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Hi the 112g (veh over 3500kg) has a box for pre 60 on it so i would asume the will 112 for veh under 3500 will need it to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossy1 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Hi i have a 1954 Austin champ which has a 1968 v5 as a farmers HGV ? it has been off the road for some 10 years or so. i am going to get it a age related plate so it will show historic on the v5 and its correct date when it was built 1954. The MVT have check it out and i have the paper work to take to the DVLA, can anyone see any pit falls with my plan ? Thanks Tony. Edited November 4, 2012 by cossy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snort Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Hii have a 1954 Austin champ which has a 1968 v5 as a farmers HGV ? it has been off the road for some 10 years or so. i am going to get it a age related plate so it will show historic on the v5 and its correct date when it was built 1954. The MVT have check it out and i have the paper work to take to the DVLA, can anyone see any pit falls with my plan ? Thanks Tony. I think you will have to mot it once (ie the first time) after being sorn and then its exempt from then on. I think this is to stop anyone pulling something out of the barn after a long time and going straight on the road.! Unless someone knows better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 (edited) Hii have a 1954 Austin champ which has a 1968 v5 as a farmers HGV ? it has been off the road for some 10 years or so. i am going to get it a age related plate so it will show historic on the v5 and its correct date when it was built 1954. The MVT have check it out and i have the paper work to take to the DVLA, can anyone see any pit falls with my plan ? Thanks Tony. Apart from dealing with DVLA? As to first registration, yes, that happned to me bringing my WC54 Katy back from Jersey onto her old English number. If the vehicle had a previous civillian plate and you have a record, try asking for it. I did and SSY823 was still available so she got it back. The MOT will be nessacary for first registration and issue of a tax disc regardless of age I have been told. Edited November 4, 2012 by Tony B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 ?? If it doesn't need an mot I can't see that you would need an mot for first registration. I'm just about to register a s/h, but previously unregistered, loading shovel. That is mot exempt, and there is no facility to mot it, so how would that work? I should be able to do it because it is of a type which is mot exempt. ?? It may be different for road-going car or truck-derived vehicles but can anyone point us to the legislation / guidance indicating so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 no u dont need or get a mot at first registration of mv, if said mv is mot exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snort Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Please let us all know how you get on, the result should help us all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossy1 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 no u dont need or get a mot at first registration of mv, if said mv is mot exempt. Hi my Austin champ already has a log book, but on the log book it is down as a farmers HGV ? and date of reg is 1968. i am going to get it a age related plate so it will show historic on the v5 and its correct date when it was built 1954. The MVT have check it out and i have the paper work to take to the DVLA, can anyone see any pit falls with my plan ? i I plan to do this after the 18th of nov which is when pre 1960 are exempt MOT. I have two issues with the log book at present one is its tax class which shows farmers HGV Which it is not and the fact that it has no date of when the champ was made, and you are correct about first registration.My ferret did not need a MOT at fisrt regidtration as it was made in 1959. just ticked the box on the 112 g form. thanks for your input. Regards Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossy1 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Please let us all know how you get on, the result should help us all Hi will do, I will be going to Chester used it before and had no ploblems just need to take as much info on the champs as poss and be polite, Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 daimler ferrets are mot exempt because they are classed as motor tractors ,nothing to do with when they are built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 no u dont need or get a mot at first registration of mv, if said mv is mot exempt. Not if you have no VC5. The first MOT actually starts the process of generating of document. I have to say in my case the local DVLA office at Sidcup went out of their way to be helpful, that's probably why local offices are due to close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossy1 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 daimler ferrets are mot exempt because they are classed as motor tractors ,nothing to do with when they are built Hi Yes you can use motor tractors but you can use pre 1960 which is number 30 on DVLA form v112g which is for veh over 3500 kg. my ferret is 1959 mk2 which is 3800kg dry weight . Some ferrets where made after 1st Jan 60 so you have to use motor tractor. they are looking at removing most of the exemptions on the v112g, pre 1960 is not one of them. Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff66 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 the mot does not start the process of generating docs i was first to road reg my ferret 1.no mot needed in fact first official paperwork is getting mv insured under hull no 2. i contacted vosa daimler ferrets are mot exempt because they are classed as motor tractors 3. this has all been done to death if further reading required look under legislation section of this forum , then mot exemption legislation sit back and read all 44 pages of it!!!!!!!!:cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossy1 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 the mot does not start the process of generating docs i was first to road reg my ferret 1.no mot needed in fact first official paperwork is getting mv insured under hull no 2. i contacted vosa daimler ferrets are mot exempt because they are classed as motor tractors 3. this has all been done to death if further reading required look under legislation section of this forum , then mot exemption legislation sit back and read all 44 pages of it!!!!!!!!:cool2: Hi yes i know that you do not have to MOT a ferret as i have completed the process as i was the first to road reg my ferret. i also got in contact with DVLA who informed me that i had 2 options on exemption of MOT. one motor tactor. Two, due to its age 1959 i could use exemption 30 pre 1960, pick one so i did. Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david56 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 When submitting the forms to the DVLA with the V112g it gives a list of possible exemptions if yours falls into one of these then you will be OK I used Engineering truck (4) for my DAF. But I was registering it as a Special Vehicle. But that was for a Goods Vehicle the exemptions for ordinary vehicles are less. When you tax it then you have to take the form to the post office they never asked me any questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossy1 Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 When submitting the forms to the DVLA with the V112g it gives a list of possible exemptions if yours falls into one of these then you will be OK I used Engineering truck (4) for my DAF. But I was registering it as a Special Vehicle. But that was for a Goods Vehicle the exemptions for ordinary vehicles are less. When you tax it then you have to take the form to the post office they never asked me any questions. Thanks for that,a pre 1960 exemption is new on the 18th on this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 When submitting the forms to the DVLA with the V112g it gives a list of possible exemptions if yours falls into one of these then you will be OK I used Engineering truck (4) for my DAF. But I was registering it as a Special Vehicle. But that was for a Goods Vehicle the exemptions for ordinary vehicles are less. When you tax it then you have to take the form to the post office they never asked me any questions. By Daf i guess you mean 4x4 leyland Daf ?. on What grounds is it a special vehicle or could it be an engineering vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruubber Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 All my trucks are on a v112g, they are often sorned and re-taxed without probs. Have once been questioned by a postmistress as to why my v112g form was 5yrs old and that she didnt want to tax it, I didnt argue although I could have, just downloaded form again. If its mot exempt it should never need an mot, they dont have facilities to do it thats why many exemptions are in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossy1 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Just a update on my application for age related registration . Went to DVLA Chester today with my v5 log book and letter of verification from the MTV. After a lot of questions in the office by the person dealing with my application . She came back to me with new registration from 1954 (form number v948 number plate authorisation cert) a new V112 dated 10/12 (categories a to o ) o is the new cat pre 1960. And a v10 application for a tax disc. She gave me my v5c/3 back to me and sent the rest of to Swansea with my letter of verification . She has told me that my new v5 will be back in about 6 weeks and to come back to sort out a tax disc and sort the tax class out (from restricted Hgv farmer to histrionic . Will require insurance if I won't to tax. Very helpful at Chester , seams to easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrettkitt Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Without getting into the legalities and going round and round in what constitutes a special vehicle or an engineering vehicle or even an educational vehicle the onus is on the owner to have the vehicle correctly MOT'd and taxed. If you have an accident and the insurance company deems that the vehicle should have been MOT'd and not exempted the insurance company will void the insurance leaving you uninsured and liable for any damages that the other vehicle owner has inccured. If you can say that you have enough money in you're bank account or the value of you're house plus you're parents house and pension pot to pay off a personnel injury claim then go ahead and exempt you're vehicle. Nough said Edited November 9, 2012 by ferrettkitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossy1 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Share Posted November 9, 2012 Without getting into the legalities and going round and round in what constitutes a special vehicle or an engineering vehicle or even an educational vehicle the onus is on the owner to have the vehicle correctly MOT'd and taxed. If you have an accident and the insurance company deems that the vehicle should have been MOT'd and not exempted the insurance company will void the insurance leaving you uninsured and liable for any damages that the other vehicle owner has inccured. If you can say that you have enough money in you're bank account or the value of you're house plus you're parents house and pension pot to pay off a personnel injury claim then go ahead and exempt you're vehicle. Nough said That not for me then Andy Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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