Jack Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Thank god HMVF is back - thought my life had ended :schocked: Anyway back to business :-D I replacing my brake liners on the GMC so have bought the liners from Rex, they have come with the rivits that I need. So, how the hell do you fix the rivits to the shoes - they don't look like pop rivits to me :? Cheers. Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 You need a proper die tool and dolly to do a decent job, I did not have these so took mine to a friendly workshop, you have to make sure its done correctly cos if they come loose :schocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 Cheers Mark. So a hammer and a screw driver isn't really the tool then :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 There's a correct tool for every job Jack my son, learn that lesson and learn it well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I've done several Jack you need to make sure you strip the metal parts down properly first,then get a steel pin the same size as the flat part of the rivet and fix in a large vice very tightly.You then make a punch out of another piece of rod and grind the end to a make a pip in the center. Start at both ends place the liners on the back plates and work to the middle a clamp on the middle of the linings will also help line everything up I've found this way you shouldn't get the holes to mismatch.The other alternative is to have them bonded on. Have fun I did :-o :-o :-o regards Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 Cheers Steve. What is a pip? Cheers. Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 What is a pip? Very similar to a tit :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Very similar to a tit :-D Or a nipple :-D :-D :-D Infact an old grease nipple would do fixed to a piece of rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappers Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Here you go Jack, http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5331/tech03100902he7.jpg[/img] http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1168/tech03100903dk4.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 21, 2006 Author Share Posted October 21, 2006 That is very helpful Steve, thank you very much for that as that now makes complete sense! Cheers. Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Jack, the correct tool is called a roll punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 26, 2006 Author Share Posted October 26, 2006 Job done! Thanks due to Mr H Ferret :bow: kindly taught me how to do them last night in his workshop :schocked: ..didn't realise that you can get more than one size of spanners Thanks mate, great job and thanks for the beer afterwards :-D - now that is service for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 29, 2006 Author Share Posted October 29, 2006 Mr H Ferret - with his dancing shoes :schocked: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/richmorris/IMAG0028-1.jpg[/img] http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/richmorris/Jerryshoes.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 See, that's what a toolbox is supposed to look like Jack :schocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 That's a big ol drill bit for 4mm rivets :-o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardyferret Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Little trick I learnt as a puppy to lightly countersink hole so the rivet has some area to splay into. Bugger all in the box though, donations kindly received!!!!!! Jack now realises that spanners come in open and closed ends!! and the graduated sizing has a reason not just aesthetics, have taken him through module 1 of precision wire brushing and use of jizer bath. Module 2 the tea break bun run and the correct way of accounting the change Module 3 job sheet creation separating the fact from the fiction I'm sure others who have been thru the apprentice mill will have a few suggestions??!! Regards Hardyferret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardyferret Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Whats all this 4mm stuff Mark?? I told an apprentice off over using metric seeing we were working with BSP galv tube I reckoned he suffered with penile insecurity and felt happier saying to his girlfriend 75mm......... No his name was Pete not Justin?? Never have been able to visualise mm inches make sense Hardyferret Fred Dibnah had it spot on :-D :beer: :tup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Never have been able to visualise mm, inches make sense Hardy Ferret, Ahh.. a man after my own heart, I curse the metric system, brought up with Imperial and will always be using the inch side of the ruler. When you are working on good old British engineering, it makes no sense to measure everything in metric. Some of us have to uphold the British traditions, like Whitworth threads, etc. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 Come on gents, all you need is a set of Molegrips and you have it sorted :-D Jerry, what was the wooden stick thing with a load of bristles on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardyferret Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 It's a broom wot apprentices chase round after on a friday tidy!! Hardyferret :rofl: :nut: :naughty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Bugger all in the box though, donations kindly received!!!!!! Ahhh, so you have got something in common with Jack after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Jack Did they teach you about when to use left handed screwdrivers? and was it easy to find a store that keeps Imperial rivet holes these days? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Hi Ferret. Surely you must have sent your new apprentice to the stores to get a long wait and a sky hook :? :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Hardy Ferret, Ahh.. a man after my own heart, I curse the metric system, brought up with Imperial and will always be using the inch side of the ruler. When you are working on good old British engineering, it makes no sense to measure everything in metric. Some of us have to uphold the British traditions, like Whitworth threads, etc. Richard You were the lucky ones then - when I did my apprenticeship (over 34 years ago...) body shells were all in metric and powertrain components were all imperial!!!! :-o :-o :-o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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