fv1609 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Yes that's much the same as far as I can read it. Have you got a picture of the amendments page? Or just tell me whether it is a printed in Amendment or if annotated by hand what it says. Thanks. ..and to think ten years I had the opportunity to buy about 200 of these later books & have long since been pulped:cry::cry::cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 Clive It merely states Amendment 1 dated 21/2/62 with a signature. Image attached. Sorry about quality lense is dirty! Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Ok thanks Wayne, so it looks as if it took them 2 years to twig that the book was incomplete:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 Ok thanks Wayne, so it looks as if it took them 2 years to twig that the book was incomplete:D Probably! I wonder how long it took them to suss out that JSP's were the way forwards????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike65 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Ok thanks Wayne, so it looks as if it took them 2 years to twig that the book was incomplete:D I doubt it was that long. It probablt took 3 months for a winch to break. 3 months to work out they could not fix it. 3 months to process the request 6 months to find the repair instructions. 9 months to reprint with instructions. Good job it did mot happen today or they would get the manual 2 years after the vehicle left service and then you could only tread if wearing hi-vis and othe suitable proection. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Elsdon Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have two user hand books, both with the winch info, and one has amendments loose in the back, its quite nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 I doubt it was that long.It probablt took 3 months for a winch to break. 3 months to work out they could not fix it. 3 months to process the request 6 months to find the repair instructions. 9 months to reprint with instructions. Good job it did mot happen today or they would get the manual 2 years after the vehicle left service and then you could only tread if wearing hi-vis and othe suitable proection. Mike Mike here speaketh the voice of experience.....Your experiences no doubts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have two user hand books, both with the winch info, and one has amendments loose in the back, its quite nice! Adam if they are genuine then you are just bragging and that's not fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I have two user hand books, both with the winch info, and one has amendments loose in the back, its quite nice! I assume these are both WO/Army Code No.12246? I'm always on the lookout for a WO Code No.18365. Although I have a high quality photocopy, there is nothing like the real thing. A copy can never recapture the history hidden in the well thumbed page, the stain of a rusty staple, the smell of damp paper etc. I picked up a nice little example of this on Sunday: On the other book I bought, there were mercifully, few stains, overused pages or even traces of dampness - Manual of Army Sanitation 1926 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Although I have a high quality photocopy, there is nothing like the real thing. A copy can never recapture the history hidden in the well thumbed page, the stain of a rusty staple, the smell of damp paper etc. Clive, If you pick up a manual and find a particular section, well thumbed and covered in oil stains, it may well signify a common problem on that vehicle it covers. Always worth checking out manuals before buying a vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Clive, If you pick up a manual and find a particular section, well thumbed and covered in oil stains, it may well signify a common problem on that vehicle it covers. Always worth checking out manuals before buying a vehicle As Mr Spock would say......That is Logical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike65 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Mike here speaketh the voice of experience.....Your experiences no doubts ? Only from dealling with Local Authorities and Environment Agency etc on highway, planning condition approvals etc. Some of them are worse they want to refer you to documents that went out of dat in the last century. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted December 14, 2010 Author Share Posted December 14, 2010 Only from dealling with Local Authorities and Environment Agency etc on highway, planning condition approvals etc.Some of them are worse they want to refer you to documents that went out of dat in the last century. Mike Ahhhh Been There Done That......Still doing that! I feel your pain and frustration Mon Amis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Wayne is this picture too exciting for you on a Monday morning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4949 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 I purchased a Humber Pig a few years ago, that had belonged to Dale Prior, prior to the owner I purchased it from. Although it has taken some time, the vehicle is nearing completion, after a long and often interrupted restoration. I have all the parts that I need and many more besides but have a question about a detail on the vehicle. To the left of the rear, nearside door, there are 4 threaded lugs welded in a rectangular pattern, presumably for something to bolt too. Has anyone got any ideas of what might have been mounted in that position? I have not seen anything similar in any of the Humber Pig literature, although, they do look original, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Adam these are for the attachment of any "approved equipment" in a similar way to those on the inside of the roof & the three vertical slats on each side to give a degree of adaptability bearing in mind the Pig was conceived for a range of roles in RAC, RA, RE, RS & Infantry. It is unusual to see them put to use but here is an in-service photo of the upper two blocks used as the anchor point for a rope supporting riot shields carried at the side of the Pig. Given that you have posted in this thread does it mean you now have Wayne's former Pig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4949 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 10 hours ago, fv1609 said: Adam these are for the attachment of any "approved equipment" in a similar way to those on the inside of the roof & the three vertical slats on each side to give a degree of adaptability bearing in mind the Pig was conceived for a range of roles in RAC, RA, RE, RS & Infantry. It is unusual to see them put to use but here is an in-service photo of the upper two blocks used as the anchor point for a rope supporting riot shields carried at the side of the Pig. Given that you have posted in this thread does it mean you now have Wayne's former Pig? I purchased a Humber Pig a few years ago, that had belonged to Dale Prior, prior to the owner I purchased it from. Although it has taken some time, the vehicle is nearing completion, after a long and often interrupted restoration. I have all the parts that I need and many more besides but have a question about a detail on the vehicle. To the left of the rear, nearside door, there are 4 threaded lugs welded in a rectangular pattern, presumably for something to bolt too. Has anyone got any ideas of what might have been mounted in that position? I have not seen anything similar in any of the Humber Pig literature, although, they do look original, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4949 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Hi Clive Thank you for your response. Yes, I purchased the Pig from Wayne. It was pretty well in the condition it was when he purchased it, except that he had removed and sadly thrown away, the remnants of wings, bins etc, which made fabrication of new tinwork that little more tricky, without the benefit of the remnants as templates. My progress with the restoration has been slow, due to many other projects getting in the way from time to time. It now has new wings, bins and I am currently attempting to repair cracked weld in several places, something I have never encountered on any other armoured vehicle I have restored. Unfortunately, my welder has recently packed up and, supposedly due to Covid, no repair agents locally are able to offer better than 2 to 3 months lead time to get it fixed. Go figure. I am currently looking at upgrading to a new Tig. I am surprised that the configuration of lugs on the back are not for anything specific but at least I do not need to try sourcing a suitable item. I will soon be re-commissioning the lighting system, yet again bleed the brakes, do some repairs to the passenger seat, so that I can get both battery covers to fit, without the back one fouling the underside of the seat frame and many other small jobs. Thank you again for the information. Malcolm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Ok Malcolm sorry I thought you were called Adam given your user name. Yes what a shame the remnants of the lockers were thrown away, such a shame that their value as patterns was not appreciated. You may have seen that on ebay there is a seller who has a surprising selection of NOS Pig items. Things like door hinges & handles, axle gaiters that seem reasonably priced. Beware another seller has silencers that is suggested are for Pigs. This is quite wrong & although I have communicated with the seller this misleading advert remains. I sold my last Pig a couple of years ago together with a large collection of spares. However I have unearthed a few odd items NOS packaged servo & generator panel plus a few small items & several sets of decent headlights & surrounds. I think your Pig has the single speed 12A dynamo. If you had a spare with it & a generator panel, those came from my wrecked FV1601. The 12A generator panels are extremely scarce, however I have seen the 25A panel fitted in as a direct substitute. I agree those 4 studs look as if they were for something special. But the EMER & UHB Technical Description just describe such fittings for authorised equipment. I have a large collection of Pig photos & I think the shot I posted is the only example of the studs in use, albeit it a bodgery sort of way. Any recent pictures to share? The last time I saw it was in the field where it had been for some years. PS I think I have NOS passenger seat canvases base & back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4949 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Hi Clive Sorry for the delay replying to your last. I will get some photos of the Pig as it is now and send them to you. A couple of new points you might be able to help with. The skid plate is corroded and I want to remove it and repair, or 're make. However, where it joins the undershield, the bolts are badly decayed. Can I remove the undershield, without support, is it just protective? Interestingly, I found a lot of very yellow sand behind the Skidplate and undershield. Is it likely that this vehicle could have served somewhere hot? I have canvas commanders seat and back, probably provided by you, when you were helping Wayne. The problem I have with battery box clearance is in the frame, which has had weld repairs in the past. I will have to fabricate some new bits and weld them in. Regards Malcolm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Yes the belly plate is just for protection, nothing will fall apart when you remove it. But it is quite heavy & you don't want that crashing down on you as you remove the final bolts. So you need to support it on some wooden blocks or similar. Sand alone but no evidence of Light Stone paint would suggest someone just off-roading it I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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