antarmike Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 It is a giraffe, photo follows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Giraffe 2-25 and Giraffe 3-31 Note how the Giraffe 3-21 is steered by rams attached in front of the axle as in the mystery vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Mike, I think you have a Janes book there, forgot about my copy, it has different photos, but does give the following info; "the Giraffe 225 is a two wheel drive vehicle.........which led to the development of the Giraffe 342 which is now in service with the British Armed Forces. .......The 342 has four wheel drive and steer" A photo of the 342 shows cab on left and the exhaust cowl as on Alan's photo. It has a makers name of Mark (UK) Ltd, who must have taken over Liner Ltd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 (edited) Liner 2-25 was a civilian model introduced in 1974 and evaluated by the Army in about 1978. It could lift 2032 Kg This lead to an improved 3-21 capable of lifting 3048Kg. Both were Perkins 4236 engine powered. The model actually being deployed was the 342, a Militarised Giraffe 3-21. This was opowered by a Perkins D3-152 (ackording to the book but I don't know what that is) The 342 could lift 2359 Kg, or a Nato 1814Kg pallet to 5.64 metre height or extended frwards to 3.7 Metres Edited November 15, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 This was opowered by a Perkins D3-152 (ackording to the book but I don't know what that is) Mike, The Perkins D3-152 was same as fitted to the Massey Ferguson 135, a 3 cylinder . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Yes 78/79 Janes support equipment, but still I can't find a L.H.D. version in what I have which is why I said cab was on wrong side for a giraffe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Yes 78/79 Janes support equipment, but still I can't find a L.H.D. version in what I have which is why I said cab was on wrong side for a giraffe! I have the 1983 copy, which shows two as LHD. Working on a lot of plant for the Army through that period, I never came across one, it looks, from what I read that they might have been trialled with the MoD, but not used in large numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 The original order was placed in 1979 and that was for 32 Giraffes. The order value was £600,000, but the order was shared between the Army and the RAF who got how many my source does not make clear. Giraffe 342 scanned from another source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 WE inherited one long ago in the hire fleet, it worked and did the job but they were not built to last, cost a lot on repair bills so we moved it on i believe the ones for the army contracts had a number of mods to ensure a longer life span. How long did they remain in service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philb Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Ah, Ranger! That brings back amusing memories. I was an apprentice at EMI when the fire control system was being developed and designed the cartridge firing wire test box (make sure the circuits are complete and the fuses will fire but without firing them). We went out on trials with Ranger mounted on a 432, driving along and expecting to scattter a tube of dummy mines every few tens of yards (or something like that). Anyway, we armed the firing unit and at the point of firing the first tube there was a big bang and all the mines from all the tubes ended up in one heap. Oops. Wasn't my fault, honest. So, we'd done some Design, then came some Development. I hope the real ones were better behaved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oily Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 the 1st two pics look more like a diesel powered welding set.... and futher on down is a pair or what look like centurion or chieftain roadwheels:idea::coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil munga Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) hi , the VW engine looks like a 2.0L going by the position of breather and 5 bolt crank + looks to have a 228mm recess for clutch plate which is the largest of the VW aircooled , can tell this as no meat left to suport the preasure plate and ring gear so to put a date on it 1975> ,,, the first and second pic looks a bit like a machine sometimes used on an airfield to help start early jet planes ?? Think there's a pic of one like it in air museum pics ,, found a pic in the link below , 8th post 2nd pic ,,, I know its not quite the same but could it be something like this http://www.hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=15115 Edited November 18, 2009 by phil munga more to add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan turner (RIP) Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) From the neg date I believe the tank suspension unit is Challenger 1, everything else going well except the tank cupola, the final trailer and the thing on the swinging arm which does fire projectiles Edited November 18, 2009 by alan turner (RIP) additional info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWDTEXAS Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 #8 is a vw pancake engine as used in the square back sedan and was fuel injected, circa 1968, 1600cc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan turner (RIP) Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 I owndered if the VW unit was the 1800 out of an FH70? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyll Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 This Giraffe was snapped on HMS Illustrious in October 1983. So it seems the RN had the right-hand drive model. Fyll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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