Jack Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Had an older gentleman in the office today and we were talking about US WWII mv's v British WWII mv's. He cussed every single one except the Dingos and the Scammells....... So what was the worst British mv of the war and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bedford Boys Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Guy Ant. Excruitiatingly slooooooowwwww...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Bit harsh! After all the British Army was the most mechanised in the World at the start of WW2. Considering evrybody including the Axis powers used British vehicles they must have been some good. Also the conditions they were manufactured under in wartime didn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bedford Boys Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Guy Ant. Excruitiatingly slooooooowwwww...... Wait. No. Can I change my reply?:rofl: Universal carriers! Ever changed a water pump on one of these things? I did the one on my Dad's mates 3" Mortar carrier. I actually had to stand on my head to get the pipe on and bolts in! NOT FUN. But they are fun to drive. Took it for a spin down the road. EVERYONE stopped and stared. No pommy vehicle is completely awful. Just when they break down. Again.:argh: I'd rather own a pommy lorry than a jeep:yay:. Everyone has a jeep.:coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 The Land Rover! Arrived two years too late and even then it was only a slight improvement on the American jeep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) The Land Rover! Arrived two years too late and even then it was only a slight improvement on the American jeep. A land-Rover made it into WW2 in "Ice Cold in Alex" but that is the only wartime one I know of! Edited October 7, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yin717 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I think really, from what I have read, there APC's (Armoured Personnel Carriers) were pretty poor. I can't remember exactly which ones but I'll get back to you on it. However to look positively, according to sources I have read the Sherman Firefly was actually a British design! Whether that's true or not it may be down to a false book but hey I'm ready to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 The AEC Armoured car gets a pretty low rating, to tall, too much of a target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
early british ww2 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Guy Ant. Excruitiatingly slooooooowwwww...... That I will give you but weren't most things British !!!! , except the Bedfords of course as they had things a little better sorted than most The main thing going for the Guy Ant's was that they were rugged , reliable and would go most places and didn't suffer from fractured manifolds like other ww2 creatures but they just took a little time to get there!!!! Cheers:coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuno Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 There was another WW2 Landrover - to be seen in 'Taxi to Tobruk' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bedford Boys Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Do we have a "best british vehicle" thread? :yay: :coffee:Call it "Best of a bad bunch" maybe? :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 A land-Rover made it into WW2 in "Ice Cold in Alex" but that is the only wartime one I know of! I believe the Morris trucks on Dunkirk Beach in the film 'Atonement' were based on Land Rover chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo1969 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Bren gun carrier.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bedford Boys Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Bren gun carrier.... Cr*p to work on but one of the most fun vehicles I have ever driven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yin717 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Bren gun carrier.... I thought they were a big success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philliphastings Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 What about the 'Carrier, Scout Mk1' seriously under powered, very very lightly armoured for a true AFV (which it was designated as it's day) and only armoured on one side. despite that though, I happen to think thay are brilliant - but then again I am biased as I have what may well be the last one in captivity and currently under slow restoration right here in Australia ! Cheers Phill:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philliphastings Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 My real vote would probably be for the beaverette scout car... Cheers Phill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bedford Boys Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Beaverette! :rofl:Certainly ugliest! It looks like the designers have gone "Righto chaps, we've got this truck. How are we going to make it look as silly as we can?" "Oh, I know sir, lets bolt heaps of plate to it" "Good thought. Lets crack on and do that" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Was the Beaverette as bad as all that ? The motorcycles in this picture are having to scratch quite hard to keep up. Rather a Beaverette than an Armadillo. Bend-swinging with an obsolete flat bed loaded with five tons of concrete pill-box really wouldn't appeal. I could live with a Beaverette ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Was the Beaverette as bad as all that ? The motorcycles in this picture are having to scratch quite hard to keep up. Motorcycles trying to keep up with a Beaverette on a hill ???? No, they are overtaking the convoy. The weight added to a normal car chassis of the period would certainly curtail any performance it might have had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuno Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Great one :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Motorcycles trying to keep up with a Beaverette on a hill ???? No, they are overtaking the convoy. The weight added to a normal car chassis of the period would certainly curtail any performance it might have had. I erm did mean my post to sound facetious but I haven't worked out how to use the Smilies on this forum. Could a Beaverette not outdrag a WD/C (or an M20 with a melting exhaust valve) on a long uphill stretch ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Could a Beaverette not outdrag a WD/C (or an M20 with a melting exhaust valve) on a long uphill stretch ? Smilies on the right, Well, a Beaverette was based on a Standard 14hp chassis, with a 4 cyl 45bhp engine and weighing in at 2 tons, ... I feel sure my M20 of 12bhp could run rings around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 (edited) The AEC Armoured car gets a pretty low rating, to tall, too much of a target. A post on the Matador gallery got me thinking, The AEC Armoured Minelayer...hopelessly laying mines in straight lines, in the middle of tyre tracks, with the mine exposed on the surface for all to see. Now that would be a difficult minefield to clear wouldn't it? The AEC Armoured Demolition Vehicle, with a drill dropping down to try to drill holes into bridges to place demolition charges, but the drill incapable of doing this, and when something soft enough to drill was found it just took to long to drill, and then place explosives..Even the Army realised quickly how useless these were and they got converted to other roles Edited October 11, 2009 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Here's my vote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covenanter_tank So bad they didn't let them out of the country. Instead, troops trained on them in the UK, learning basic non-tank-specific skills then converted to decent tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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