AndyFowler Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Definitely one of my favourite lorries now ! Thanks for posting ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerschlepper Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 What is the Explorer towing frame strapped to the crane framework? As German it isn´t known by me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerschlepper Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 @grintineye This extreme misalignment on the rear axles, is because of the extrem using at Recovery work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) What is the Explorer towing frame strapped to the crane framework?As German it isn´t known by me! The triangular black frame - when carrying out a suspended tow it is used to keep the two vehicles at a constant distance apart. It was standard equipment on the Scammell Pioneer and Explorer. Edited September 21, 2009 by radiomike7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambers101 Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I have footage of one at the off roading events at Bovington in the late 80's. Awesome looking beast. My parents was filming at the time. Also pictures of one in the AWDC magazine taken at one of the events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hello together, has somebody pictures of the triangle black frame in action ? Because the REME Magirus "Recovery Truck Heavy" of the ex British Army Berlin has altogether four towing bars. Two triangle and also two "standard" types. A large triange with shackles is in driving position under the front bumper. And the small one is on the back side of the crane. It´s the same as at the Pioneer and Explorer. But for which cars is the small triangle and how is the function at work ? Because the small trangle has only a piston without shackles ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 ... and here you can see the small triange at the back ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 In line with cutting edge military technology current at the time the frame was lashed to the casualty with rope!! I was for recovery up to 10 tons I believe?? To be fair this worked well with I beam front axles, the large bottom tube of the frame fits inside the web and is able to turn in order that the ropes did not come loose. Someone will no doubt be along with a picture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hello mate , is the Uranus yours ? She looks fantastic ! As far as I know the small A frame is lashed to the casualty vehicles front axle with a line ! I have seen a diagram of this method and will try to find it for you ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 This are also two Magirus "Recovery Trucks Heavy" of the ex REME Workshop build 1964 for the British Army in Berlin. Today at a german truck dealer in very bad conditions and unmarketable ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hello AndyFowler, yes, the truck is my. Thanks for your comment ! A diagram of this method will be very helpfull. Thanks a lot ahead ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 This are also two Magirus "Recovery Trucks Heavy" of the ex REME Workshop build 1964 for the British Army in Berlin. Today at a german truck dealer in very bad conditions and unmarketable ... Good job I don't live in Berlin because I'd have to find room for them ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Welcome to the forum Recovery. That truck looks more impressive each time I look at those pics, have you had to do much work to get it in that condition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 oh, yes. A lot of work .... Around 5 years and the work is going on ... Since some month, I revise the front and rear axles, suspension links, rear springs and steering links. More than 20 years hard work at commercial towing service companies consign a lot of traces ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 :bow::bow::bow::bow: Well done that man ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Even more impressed now! Nice work, well done. Can you do one for Andy now? :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 ... and some other impressions ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hello together, has somebody pictures of the triangle black frame in action ? Because the REME Magirus "Recovery Truck Heavy" of the ex British Army Berlin has altogether four towing bars. Two triangle and also two "standard" types. A large triange with shackles is in driving position under the front bumper. And the small one is on the back side of the crane. It´s the same as at the Pioneer and Explorer. But for which cars is the small triangle and how is the function at work ? Because the small trangle has only a piston without shackles ? I am sure Militant Graham won't mind a plug for his website, have a look at the REME stuff on the downloads page. http://www.aecmilitant.co.uk/downloads.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 ... and some other impressions ... Looks like you have cornered the market with regards spare parts mate ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) Pic of frame from Explorer manual. I am sure the roller tube of the A frame would rotate round that axle when the tractors brakes are applied, it would be better with a I beam axle though. Edited September 22, 2009 by gritineye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz76 Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 A very impressive restoration. Welcome to the forum Recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzerschlepper Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Hello, here a picture of a Magirus Uranus in 1999. I visited the vehicle in Belgium. 4 of such vehicles are "killed" an the motors an winches are selled to africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recovery Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I can speak from the same one´s own experiences. A lot of Uranus tractors of the ex Belgian Army are scraped. The last trucks in the periode of the high price level of steel. And I also find a truck dealer in Begium, who explain me a export of minimum 50 Uranus to Africa incl. spare parts. Last week I hear, the last two Magirus Uranus Tank Tractors in service by the Belgian Army are auctioned around seven month ago to german collectors. Suprise, suprise ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptimber Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Pic of frame from Explorer manual. I am sure the roller tube of the A frame would rotate round that axle when the tractors brakes are applied, it would be better with a I beam axle though. I use this a frame when suspend towing with the pioneer ,the frame is only 4 ft long so if used as shown in the manual the casualty would be to close to the rear of the scammell and there would be no clearance for turning . I position the roller against the front bumper/drawbar then strangle reevable chains around the bumper/drawbar and the roller of the A frame,these are then hooked onto the crane hook when lifted the roller is pulled tight but the A frame can still move up and down ,i have lifted GMC cckw AEC Matador Austin K6/K9 Ford D series etc and have never had any problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for that nptimber, that all makes good sense. I have used mine twice and found it a real pain to secure properly. Call me bonkers but I have a theory that these frames where designed in the early 1930s when a lot of horse drawn wagons where still around, one of their uses was for when no horses where available, then the shafts could be removed and the frame lashed onto the turntable, they would be perfect for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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