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Can anyone tell me where these pics might have been taken and what the chassis is off?

On the back of one of the pics it says:-cap badge of the duke of cambridges own. (middlesex regt)....:coffee:

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I guess along the lines of a Leyland series not sure which one maybe a Retriever. Interesting that the steering wheel appears to be centrally mounted ?

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well it has a six cylinder engine...and if that is an Autovac, probably petrol, although the steering wheel on the table appears to have an advance/ retard lever, the one on the vehicle doesn't.

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I was wondering more along the lines of a test Morris, sure there was a reference to them in the article on them in CMV a while ago, photo looks early though.

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Certainly inter-war, probably 1930s rather than 20s. The axles don't look Morris to me though.

 

If you look at the rear wheel there is a hole near the rim. This matches the ones on the Crossley I linked to earlier. I've not found anything else with these types of wheel, and the hubs are a good match too...

 

I don't believe the six cyclinder crank on the table is related; certainly the steering column looks to be off something else (the wheel doesn't match the one on the vehicle).

 

A close up:

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://svsm.org/albums/brit_wwi-wwii/IMG_1426.thumb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://svsm.org/gallery/brit_wwi-wwii&usg=__0OiiDY7FWn0bP0V-LxfHCJl9XCw=&h=113&w=150&sz=7&hl=en&start=37&um=1&tbnid=uOt2vVHjdXzryM:&tbnh=72&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcrossley%2Barmoured%2Bcar%26start%3D36%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN

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Certainly inter-war, probably 1930s rather than 20s. The axles don't look Morris to me though.

 

I don't believe the six cylinder crank on the table is related;

 

After looking at that Crossley photo, I agree, the wheel type and hubs are as near as identical. Definitely does not match a Morris and engine looks to big anyway. The fact that the steering column is so tight to the engine, suggests a narrow cab, and of course the Crossley has a narrow hull. Usually these MT schools start by teaching basic mechanicals, so the origin of the chassis is not important, there for the parts laid out nearby are just examples for the instructor to work with.

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Thanks Richard / Les

 

Interesting that you both appear to have skipped over the teaser in my first posting - I was expecting your approval / disapproval before now. I must be more explicit in the future!

 

Out of interest, and to validate the answer, I've been trying to find better pictures of the Crossley chassis with no success. The best I've found are pictures of the now restored civvy Crossley BGV1 six-wheeler (The Automobile Magazine, Aug 1995, p58; and Classic & Vintage Commercials Magazine, Sept 2006, p34). But there are more differences than similarities!

 

What do you have in your files?

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Certainly inter-war, probably 1930s rather than 20s. The axles don't look Morris to me though.

 

If you look at the rear wheel there is a hole near the rim. This matches the ones on the Crossley I linked to earlier. I've not found anything else with these types of wheel, and the hubs are a good match too...

 

I don't believe the six cyclinder crank on the table is related; certainly the steering column looks to be off something else (the wheel doesn't match the one on the vehicle).

 

A close up:

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://svsm.org/albums/brit_wwi-wwii/IMG_1426.thumb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://svsm.org/gallery/brit_wwi-wwii&usg=__0OiiDY7FWn0bP0V-LxfHCJl9XCw=&h=113&w=150&sz=7&hl=en&start=37&um=1&tbnid=uOt2vVHjdXzryM:&tbnh=72&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcrossley%2Barmoured%2Bcar%26start%3D36%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN

 

The photo is obviously posed, so they could have put whatever they think looked technical, in the shot to get the message across they where training in the latest skills and techniques, I thought the crank might be connected, because the table, and the diagrams resting against it are deliberatley turned facing the truck in the photo, and placed so that those studying the illustration, and the objects on the table will be stood by that vehicle.

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