SPTA team Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 This maybe a stupid thing to ask but can anyone shed any light of this Armour please? While out on the ranges today we cought up with a whole gang of CVR(T)s and some of them have this type of armour. http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/plainmilitary/HMFV%20SALISBURY%20PLAIN%20VISIT/CVRT2.jpg[/img] http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/plainmilitary/HMFV%20SALISBURY%20PLAIN%20VISIT/CVRT3.jpg[/img] http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/plainmilitary/HMFV%20SALISBURY%20PLAIN%20VISIT/CVRT1.jpg[/img] These pictures were taken last year and not today. Im sure its not right but I call it Zelda Armour after the IDF M113 Zelders :dunno:. Any help would be great as we are going up again some time in the week. Tony :tup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 mcspool Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Im sure its not right but I call it Zelda Armour after the IDF M113 Zelders :dunno:. Zelda? You mean Zelt armour, maybe?!? As in tent!?! :-D Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 It's only perforated steel so would imagine it's an anti-RPG cage... doesn't stand of the armour that far though :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Might be non magnetic? Can't see it haveing much stand off performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bazz Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 As far as I know it is to allow the RPG warhead to detonate on the sde of the bin allowing the gap to act as a standoff distance, otherwise the RPG would penetrate the alloy bin and detonate against the main veh armour. Baz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SPTA team Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 I can't see it being for RPG rounds, The distance between the armour and the vehicle is nothing, 6" if that. To be honest, if you had a RPG would'nt you go for the turret or tracks. :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 AlienFTM Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 There is a far better armour add-on available for CVR(T)s than this that protects the turret and underneath the sponsons. IMCO it hasn't been added as armour - it merely utilises the old bolt-holes for the float-screen to create extra storage to tidy away cam nets so they don't catch in the tracks and stuff that doesn't need to be locked away or kept dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bazz Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Yes, this is the armour trialled prior to the current in use Bar Armour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SPTA team Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 I saw that bar armour at Bovie Tank fest fitted to a Scimitar and Chally2. Heres one of the new Mastive APCs fitted with bar armour. They are out on the ranges at the moment preping for Ganny. http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r183/plainmilitary/HMFV%20SALISBURY%20PLAIN%20VISIT/IMG_2078.jpg[/img] Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bazz Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I wonder how much weight this armour adds and how it effects veh performance and stability. Baz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SPTA team Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 It certainly adds to the width of the vehicle. We followed them over Charlie crossing, anyone that came to last years Plain tour will know C crossing and how wide it is. These have about an 6" both sides to get over. Thankfully the two ammo box's are high enought to clear the bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 So now aim at the wheels. The typical armour V firepower conumdrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mark Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Plain Have you got a side shot of that Mastive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SPTA team Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 Will have a look for you Mark, is it with bar armour fitted or just the truck in general? As for shooting out the wheels I think they are running on run flat tyres. The same type that the yanks use on almost all there wheeled kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 sirhc Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I have some photos of a Mastif which was blown up in Iraq. It made a right mess of the vehicle, engine a few yards away, wheels blown off. But the vehicle works, everyone survived. I don't think I can post the photos though. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 SPTA team Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 The Mastif has considerable armour plate on the underneath of the vehicle. If its the vehicle I remember reading about it was hit by a IED. A massive Artillery shell buried in the road. There aren't many vehicles out that could possibly escape such devises. As for survivors, well thats anyones guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 If your alive to complain about the bruises and ringing in the ears, wheres the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 AlienFTM Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 The Mastif has considerable armour plate on the underneath of the vehicle. If its the vehicle I remember reading about it was hit by a IED. A massive Artillery shell buried in the road. There aren't many vehicles out that could possibly escape such devises. As for survivors, well thats anyones guess. Last year such an IED took the legs off a CR2 driver. Mind five times 155mm rounds chained together would penetrate anything. If it didn't they'd only use more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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This maybe a stupid thing to ask but can anyone shed any light of this Armour please? While out on the ranges today we cought up with a whole gang of CVR(T)s and some of them have this type of armour.
These pictures were taken last year and not today.
Im sure its not right but I call it Zelda Armour after the IDF M113 Zelders :dunno:.
Any help would be great as we are going up again some time in the week.
Tony :tup:
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