Mark Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 More than likely stupid question, but is a military jerry can 20L or 25L capacity. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bodge Deep Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 20l i think as i always peek at jerry cans at car boot sales in case theyre wartime ones. If they have 20l on them they're modern ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 woa2 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 If you are referring to British Jerry Cans, I beleive they are 4 1/2 imperial gallons. A wartime British Jerry Can is slightly narrower that a German one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mark Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Standard military one will do as used now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fv1609 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 British jerrycans with a date 1990 or before (ie before UN rules applied) were: Capacity: 4 1/2 imp gallons Dimensions: 18 3/4 in x 13 3/8 in x 6 1/2 in Weight: Empty 9 1/2 lb. Filled (average depending on liquid density) appx 45 lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mark Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Thank you Clive nice bit of information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fv1609 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Thank you Clive nice bit of information. All that sort of stuff is usually found in the back of books like Admin in the Field, Admin in the Corps etc very useful source of info eg at a glance you can see that a 3-Ton lorry can carry 675 gallons in jerrycans of petrol or 620 gallons filled with water or 400 empty jerrycans! etc etc or a 3-ton lorry can carry 8,960 ration packs consisting of 224 cases of 22.5 lb cases of biscuits or 15,600 empty sandbags & so it goes on :schocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 lightweight Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 As we're talking Jerry Cans, am I right in saying that the screw top ones are US WW2 pattern, and the pop tops are later? Reason is, a friend of mine bought some screw top ones that are '70s dated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bodge Deep Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 yes screw tops are us pattern... Unless you have a spout to attach to the can they are bl**dy awful to pour... goes everywhere...except where you're trying to pour it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Degsy Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 So called 'jerrycans' were originally an Italian design picked up by the Germans and then by the British to replace the awful 2 and 4 gallon 'flimsies' used in the early war years. The British and Germans used the clamp top and when the Yanks got in on the act they used the screw top. A spout is available for both types but are not interchangeable. It is OK to use any type of can on any vehicle as cans of any manufacture were used by all the combatants. This is a massive subject to study all on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 woa2 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I found a British Army manual once that called the German pattern cans 'Jerry-cans', and the US pattern cans 'Ameri-cans'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mark Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 So called 'jerrycans' were originally an Italian design picked up by the Germans and then by the British to replace the awful 2 and 4 gallon 'flimsies' used in the early war years. The British and Germans used the clamp top and when the Yanks got in on the act they used the screw top. A spout is available for both types but are not interchangeable. It is OK to use any type of can on any vehicle as cans of any manufacture were used by all the combatants. This is a massive subject to study all on its own. So if I read this correct, a clamp type one which I assume as "modern" is Ok to use on a WW2 vehicle ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 woa2 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 If anybody wants to buy a WW2 British Jerry Can, I will be at Dallas Dig-out on Jan 6th and I can bring some along with me. Very reasonable prices!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 abn deuce Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 it depends if your referring to the clamp style on an offset small rectangular spout thats WW2 British or German which would be correct for the period . A screw type cover with rounded lugs centrally located is WW2 American but if its straight lugged screw type would be post WW2 war or if its large round mouth with cam or clamp style its WW2 American Water can. there is also the question of the air vent tube on inside back of the small spout as to its being WW2 German or without British But I could be wrong on that detail . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jack Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Interestingly and as we know - the Jerry can was named after we found them discarded in North Africa by the Jerry's........but were in fact an Italian concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 So called 'jerrycans' were originally an Italian design picked up by the Germans and then by the British to replace the awful 2 and 4 gallon 'flimsies' used in the early war years. The British and Germans used the clamp top and when the Yanks got in on the act they used the screw top. A spout is available for both types but are not interchangeable. It is OK to use any type of can on any vehicle as cans of any manufacture were used by all the combatants. This is a massive subject to study all on its own. I know one guy who has a wermacht jerry can on his jeep. His Father stole it from the Germans during the Occupation. A lot of war time photos show captured bit's and pieces in use by all sides so why worry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jack Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Hi Tony - I have one on my Jimmy! ...and will have another one soon - ain't that right Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LeeEnfield Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Seem to remember something along the lines of the germans sueing for copyright, fairly recently,.............well, within last 10 years. :dunno: (memories NOT what it was, ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ashley Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Interestingly and as we know - the Jerry can was named after we found them discarded in North Africa by the Jerry's........but were in fact an Italian concept. Strange i did not know that the HF`s came from Africa :-D :-D Joking aside... there was an uproar several years ago when it was believed that the German government was trying to claim copyright payments from the Allied governments for using their ideas with out permission :schocked: But from what i can gather they were trying to patent the rubber seal in the cap because due to wartime shortages, these were made by using the resin from crushed cherry pips rather than rubber. I belive the germans nicknamed them `cherry cans` the Allies chaned this to `jerry cans` Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jack Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 belive the germans nicknamed them `cherry cans` the Allies chaned this to `jerry cans` Ashley Ash - is this a wind up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mark Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 Have a read of this one Jack matey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mark Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 And this one http://www.sonoransteel.com/jerry_can.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Centurion Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 The French made them as well post war I think these usually have an air bleed pipe inside the nozzle and have 20L stamped on them. I found one of these for my Hotchkiss at an autojumble in Scotland. There is also a website dedicated to Jerry cans of all makes and country of origin but I cant remember the address Centurion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 And people think we are sad? Rather like Biro , the term has become generic, I don't think you can sue in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ashley Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Ash - is this a wind up? Hi Jack, the name cherry can to jerry can may be a figment of someones imagination but as far as i know the rest is treue. Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Out of intersest, because I've got a British one dated 1943, when did the British start using Jerry Cans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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More than likely stupid question, but is a military jerry can 20L or 25L capacity.
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