WW 2 Vehicle Names Listing

[KevinT]

If you can see any errors or can add anything please let me know.

WWII Vehicle Names V6 as at 1st July 21.pdf

[DaiBuckler]

HI Kevin  Dai Buckler here, thanks for compiling such a fantastic set of tables.   Invaluable reference and records!     

I'll fire in a few from my phot archive for this and post WWII vehicles if I can add any confirmed updates .  I'm ex REME and took a fair few reference pics as I was at different locations, as reference for my model making, I'm working on dong as many REME variants as I can in 1:35 but with the added reference of vehicles being supported.  This is a long term hobby and covers REME form inception in '42.  Happy to share any I find as I go. 

A couple to start: WWII Cromwell ARVADONIS, no T Number (IWMVideo, evidence  https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060019455  ) recovering CROMWELL T187601 ATHASI 8th KR Irish Hussars , also shown at  at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1682523601809827/posts/3287702981291873/ with unit ID as 2nd Sqn KRIH,  Nb  ATHASI from an Irish horse racing event that was named after a thoroughbred Mare.   

I'm doing a Cromwell ARV recovering a Cromwell and found this doing research.    Also I've noted the Churchill ARV's from Tunis (Faith & Hope....Charity?)  These were the names of the first CRARRV's into theatre for GW1, some thought named after the Fairy Swordfish Torpedo planes on MALTA, but I think some bright spark at REME HQ will have read a report on these and linked them?  I've a friend, former ASM who was with the Vickers upgrade team and gave me chapter and verse on the CRARRVS, names/numbers. 

All the best for now.  AEM

 

 

[Richard Farrant]

Hi Dai,

Good to see you on here. Your reference to Faith, Hope and Charity being originally the names of Swordfish aircraft in Malta, I recall they were actually Gloster Gladiators.

Look forward to seeing some of your models on here 🙂

[DaiBuckler]

Thanks for the update, Gladiators they were indeed.  I'll post a few pictures of the model builds as they go. The site is great as reference and for ideas.  Twist to Open!

[KevinT]

4 hours ago, DaiBuckler said:

HI Kevin  Dai Buckler here, thanks for compiling such a fantastic set of tables.   Invaluable reference and records!     

I'll fire in a few from my phot archive for this and post WWII vehicles if I can add any confirmed updates .  I'm ex REME and took a fair few reference pics as I was at different locations, as reference for my model making, I'm working on dong as many REME variants as I can in 1:35 but with the added reference of vehicles being supported.  This is a long term hobby and covers REME form inception in '42.  Happy to share any I find as I go. 

A couple to start: WWII Cromwell ARVADONIS, no T Number (IWMVideo, evidence  https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060019455  ) recovering CROMWELL T187601 ATHASI 8th KR Irish Hussars , also shown at  at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1682523601809827/posts/3287702981291873/ with unit ID as 2nd Sqn KRIH,  Nb  ATHASI from an Irish horse racing event that was named after a thoroughbred Mare.   

I'm doing a Cromwell ARV recovering a Cromwell and found this doing research.    Also I've noted the Churchill ARV's from Tunis (Faith & Hope....Charity?)  These were the names of the first CRARRV's into theatre for GW1, some thought named after the Fairy Swordfish Torpedo planes on MALTA, but I think some bright spark at REME HQ will have read a report on these and linked them?  I've a friend, former ASM who was with the Vickers upgrade team and gave me chapter and verse on the CRARRVS, names/numbers. 

All the best for now.  AEM

Hello Dai,

I am basically a modeller at heart too. I started this listing well over 30 years ago through modelling. I wanted to use different decals / names on the kit i was doing at the time, I was surprised at how many different names there were so started to list them down and the database was born! Initially they were just WWII names and then I was contacted by Dick Taylor Lt.Col. 3 RTR (retired) he started Pre and Post WWII and we have been trading names and number ever since. We are currently working on Version 7 of the lists.

Over the years I have been contacted by modellers, museums, restorers, ex service men and women even people asking about relations tanks. I was even contacted by a guy in Canada who told me I had spelled the name of an M10 incorrectly as it was his fathers tank. I had posted a screenshot of it and he asked where it came from, i found the original source and sent it to him. It was a smouldering M10, he managed to get hold of the original film. Turns out the guy filming the M10 was his dad, he and his family had never seen the film before. One of the nice things about this hobby.

Many of 8 KRIH tanks are named after horses there are several on the lists.

Attached is my attempt at a Cromwell ARV and a Fordson Machinery. The Cromwell ARV is a Tamiya/Accurate Armour mix and the Fordson is a Revell/Resicast mix with lots of extras.

Any new names be they PRE, WWII or Post WWII will be much aprreciated.

Cheers

Kevin

4 hours ago, DaiBuckler said:

 

 

[Rootes75]

Iirc, Faith, Hope and Charity weren't just 3 Gladiators, they were 'bitsa's'. Basically whichever 3 planes that got airworthy were given the names.

I recall reading this once that it could be 6 or 7 aircraft. I will find out where I read it and re-read the story.

[Rootes75]

A quick google came up with this:

MAYBE LATER 

 CLOSE 

The Hal Far Fighter Flight was a British fighter unit formed during the Siege of Malta in 1940. For several weeks, the island of Malta was protected by a small force of Gloster Sea Gladiator biplane fighters, based at RAF Hal Far, which was also known as the Fleet Air Arm station HMS Falcon. The flight is the source of the myth that only three aircraft, named Faith, Hope and Charity formed the fighter cover for the island.^[1][2] In fact, six aircraft were operational, though not always at the same time; others were used for spare parts.^[3] The names Faith, Hope and Charity were applied to the aircraft many months later, by a Maltese newspaper.^[4]

[DaiBuckler]

Good evening Gentlemen

Starting back with Kevin, I have been model making on and off since childhood, the hobby has kept me sane on a few longer separations/tours during my time in REME.  I only reached WOII AQMS, jumping to the commissioned ranks was an option and one I considered but felt 26+ years was time enough and life after REME began.

Like the model making the service never leaves us, the follow up career has been in the defence industry and plant maintenance, and back again to the defence industry.  I've thoroughly enjoyed putting new kit in to service, hopefully the end users have been happy with them.

I've been involved with and assisted various private owners, here and overseas, over the years and also been back and fore to the REME Museum to see my old instructor and friend the late Rodger Jones.  His Successor on the REME Fleet is also a friend, Wayne Meadows is employed by the Museum to maintain the vehicle fleet, I've known him since I was AQMS at 32RA in Larkhill, ouch that's now 20yrs+  

A few other folk I know also have a Museum over at Snetterton, and a friend here in the village I live in had a Cent ARV Mk2, this has been replaced by a VT55 of Czech origin. I built the Accurate Armour Cent ARVmk2 for him after it was sold and also the Plus Models VT55, for him. Next for him will be a CAT D7 Letourneau and Ripper, hopefully followed by Leyland Martian, he's got examples of both in his collection.  He collects and restores vintage CAT Machinery, the Martian works for its keep.  The VT55 was put into a diorama of a little fun day filmed back in 2009, search Youtube for VT55 v VW Pol.  a few Pics attached and a full write up will be in the south Wales MAFVA magazine "Dragon" for those branch members who are on here, possibly out to a wider distribution later.

I've been dealing with Derek Hansen at AA in Glasgow for many years, another friend, a local model maker did masters for him and Gordon Brown of Cromwell Models, and a few other companies out there, I assisted with information and access to 1:1 kit for the builds.  I've built a few other REME variants from AA some for former colleagues and now it's time for my own collection. Lots in the part built/to build stash.....I do need to get some bench time in. I have also been gathering the offerings from the likes of ResiCast, WoT 6 and Hippo conversions, Sherman ARV MK1  etc. along with the plastic kits of Diamond T and the Scammel S2.  

Your models look great, nice to see them in a well thought out setting, the fitters are having a break from hunting for the elusive 3/8 AF spanner,....in modern parlance it would be the 10mm socket is great where did you get the toolboxes?  Back then I think the tool box contents were mainly A/F & Whitworth, a few BSP. I know at my first few units the tool boxes were WWII vintage and most of the tools original, "Don't fix what ain't 't broke!"   

I'm undecided on the markings for the Cromwell's under repair etc, split between the KRIH mentioned and 2Bn Welsh Guards, Reconnaissance.   A few images of their vehicle are available and a bit of a home touch, but the table may add in a few missing gaps.  I'll post on those as they are a bit further along. 

 

And so to Roots75

Magic and thanks muchly for digging out the names and correct identification of the aircraft on Malta, the period is one often overlooked and something that needs a boost, both in terms of awareness and hopefully in the model making world, a great potential to tell the story of the naval and shipping efforts and also those of the troops garrisoned to protect the island. 

"Keep them flying" would make for a cracking model/diorama, I've no doubt one of the aircraft lads/lasses has already thought of that.  My Godfather taught aero-engine maintenance in Merlin's to Canadian RAF engineers for most of his war effort, and then spent time on MALTA after the ceasefire.

Again Gentlefolk of HMVF  thanks for the information and hopefully if I leave the lap top on I may pick up on any threads that I can contribute to.  

I'll stop wittering on now, 

Best Regards 

[KevinT]

10 hours ago, DaiBuckler said:

Good evening Gentlemen

Starting back with Kevin, I have been model making on and off since childhood, the hobby has kept me sane on a few longer separations/tours during my time in REME.  I only reached WOII AQMS, jumping to the commissioned ranks was an option and one I considered but felt 26+ years was time enough and life after REME began.

Like the model making the service never leaves us, the follow up career has been in the defence industry and plant maintenance, and back again to the defence industry.  I've thoroughly enjoyed putting new kit in to service, hopefully the end users have been happy with them.

I've been involved with and assisted various private owners, here and overseas, over the years and also been back and fore to the REME Museum to see my old instructor and friend the late Rodger Jones.  His Successor on the REME Fleet is also a friend, Wayne Meadows is employed by the Museum to maintain the vehicle fleet, I've known him since I was AQMS at 32RA in Larkhill, ouch that's now 20yrs+  

A few other folk I know also have a Museum over at Snetterton, and a friend here in the village I live in had a Cent ARV Mk2, this has been replaced by a VT55 of Czech origin. I built the Accurate Armour Cent ARVmk2 for him after it was sold and also the Plus Models VT55, for him. Next for him will be a CAT D7 Letourneau and Ripper, hopefully followed by Leyland Martian, he's got examples of both in his collection.  He collects and restores vintage CAT Machinery, the Martian works for its keep.  The VT55 was put into a diorama of a little fun day filmed back in 2009, search Youtube for VT55 v VW Pol.  a few Pics attached and a full write up will be in the south Wales MAFVA magazine "Dragon" for those branch members who are on here, possibly out to a wider distribution later.

I've been dealing with Derek Hansen at AA in Glasgow for many years, another friend, a local model maker did masters for him and Gordon Brown of Cromwell Models, and a few other companies out there, I assisted with information and access to 1:1 kit for the builds.  I've built a few other REME variants from AA some for former colleagues and now it's time for my own collection. Lots in the part built/to build stash.....I do need to get some bench time in. I have also been gathering the offerings from the likes of ResiCast, WoT 6 and Hippo conversions, Sherman ARV MK1  etc. along with the plastic kits of Diamond T and the Scammel S2.  

Your models look great, nice to see them in a well thought out setting, the fitters are having a break from hunting for the elusive 3/8 AF spanner,....in modern parlance it would be the 10mm socket is great where did you get the toolboxes?  Back then I think the tool box contents were mainly A/F & Whitworth, a few BSP. I know at my first few units the tool boxes were WWII vintage and most of the tools original, "Don't fix what ain't 't broke!"   

I'm undecided on the markings for the Cromwell's under repair etc, split between the KRIH mentioned and 2Bn Welsh Guards, Reconnaissance.   A few images of their vehicle are available and a bit of a home touch, but the table may add in a few missing gaps.  I'll post on those as they are a bit further along. 

 

And so to Roots75

Magic and thanks muchly for digging out the names and correct identification of the aircraft on Malta, the period is one often overlooked and something that needs a boost, both in terms of awareness and hopefully in the model making world, a great potential to tell the story of the naval and shipping efforts and also those of the troops garrisoned to protect the island. 

"Keep them flying" would make for a cracking model/diorama, I've no doubt one of the aircraft lads/lasses has already thought of that.  My Godfather taught aero-engine maintenance in Merlin's to Canadian RAF engineers for most of his war effort, and then spent time on MALTA after the ceasefire.

Again Gentlefolk of HMVF  thanks for the information and hopefully if I leave the lap top on I may pick up on any threads that I can contribute to.  

I'll stop wittering on now, 

Best Regards 

Hi Dai,

Never joined the services myself, but that is another story, just a son of a gunner. My late father finished as a WOII with 210 Battery, 104 LAD. He was like a fish out of water after 2 years boys service 26 years regular and 4 years TA. Modelling was not his thing not military stuff anyway.

I like your kits, the dio is very impressive something I have never done due to space and number of kits and keeping the peace with 'er indoors. I just use that wall/gateway as a backdrop to photograph the models. All my models are WWII examples I could never get into early or post war stuff, space finances and a lack of knowledge/references being my excuse.

I too have some of the kits you mention, the Scammell, Sherman ARV, Diamond T, even a couple of M31's ( Calbre 35 conv and the Takom kit ) somewhere. 

You asked about the tool boxes and tools. They come from various kits over the years, Italeri, Tamiya, AA, and lately MiniArt do a set with PE tools I also got a set from I think it was Passion Models which is another great PE set of tools.

Cheers

Kevin

Edited July 15, 2021 by KevinT

[Ex-boy]

Another named tank shown in the Mobilisation Number thread recently posted. A Sherman named Ben Macdhui, although there is a question as to which regiment it is with and you will need to ask the experts about what mark the tank is.

[KevinT]

10 hours ago, Ex-boy said:

Another named tank shown in the Mobilisation Number thread recently posted. A Sherman named Ben Macdhui, although there is a question as to which regiment it is with and you will need to ask the experts about what mark the tank is.

Hi Ex-boy,

It has been established that BEN MACDHUI is a Sherman V of 2nd Fife and Forfar Yeomanry, 11th Armoured Division.

 

Cheers

Kevin

[Ex-boy]

10 hours ago, KevinT said:

Hi Ex-boy,

It has been established that BEN MACDHUI is a Sherman V of 2nd Fife and Forfar Yeomanry, 11th Armoured Division.

 

Cheers

Kevin

Thanks for the update Kevin. Good to know there is no mystery about it.

Steve.

[sterling1961]

Stupid I know but are we sure the tank is called Ben Machudi or is the radio op/gunner called Ben and the driver Machudi? The reason I ask is because there is a marking on the front of the commanders coupola bulge that could be a name and if you look to the right of the front of the tank there is another name or at least a collection of letters there as well.

[KevinT]

Yes we are. See attached. Behind is either BEN ALDER or BEN NEVIS all names used by 2nd Fife & Forfar Yeomanry.

Cheers

Kevin

[Oh Five]

Ben Macdui is the second highest mountain in Britain.  Ben Nevis is the highest.  

It might be rather confusing with so many assistant drivers/machine gunners named Ben in the same unit. Ben is the English version of beinn and  bheinn, which are the Gaelic for peak or mountain.

Ben Alder, like the other two, is a Munro.  A Munro is a mountain that is over 3000ft high.

[KevinT]

33 minutes ago, Oh Five said:

Ben Macdui is the second highest mountain in Britain.  Ben Nevis is the highest.  

It might be rather confusing with so many assistant drivers/machine gunners named Ben in the same unit. Ben is the English version of beinn and  bheinn, which are the Gaelic for peak or mountain.

Ben Alder, like the other two, is a Munro.  A Munro is a mountain that is over 3000ft high.

I know,

As is BEN CRUACHAN and BEN BECULAR two other names used by 2nd Fife & Forfar Yeomanry.

Cheers

Kevin