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  • 10 months later...

'Fifth wheel'. Had many set backs over the year so didn't get too far on the restoration, hopefully back on track next year. A couple of years ago we managed to buy the correct Dayton fifth wheel as the one fitted we believe was post war. The Dayton was seized solid and over weeks of digging out compacted dirt and grease and soaking in penetrating oil, steam cleaning and more penetrating oil we finally had a little movement...all with help from a recovery truck hydraulic leg, obviously we had to take this easy as to not brake the casting at all, literally took a whole weekend to get things moving and finally removal of the main shaft no other way other than perseverance with the good old sledge hammer! now everything is apart and can be cleaned and inspected before assembling.

 

 

 

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Hi Phil, Happy New Year to you too!

Yes it was a bit of a job to get apart! The large pin that we had to clean as best as we could before removal to make it as easy as possible to knock out is obviously so the top plate can pivot from front to back on the base plate, there are two large coil springs that can't be seen from the pictures which enable the mechanism to pivot from left to right, the two wedge shaped pieces we removed are to lock the top plate once on even ground to prevent it from moving from left to right....if anyone one knows different please let us know.

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Interesting that SNL G513 lists two different fifth wheels for these tractors, by Fruehauf and  Dayton, the dayton type looks different to the one you have, with the fore and aft pivots on the  chassis and no transverse pivot. The Fruehauf type has a one piece trailer lead on ramp which was always missing on this truck, so could have been  a retrofit by the French but I have seen many Federals, Autocars and the like with the same Fruehauf style. The Dayton style has two separate ramps FMT16C734 and FMT16C735 but the SNL picture doesn't show them curiously20230103_134045.thumb.jpg.56bec0386def648836c8c2bc3d8d33a3.jpg2

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  • 7 months later...

 We have been making progress slowly! We decided that the chassis needed spraying again now we are starting to assemble and bolt parts back into place so airlines etc had to first be masked up, painted the prop shafts and also the tool box. A few weeks ago we lifted the engine back into place and managed this weekend to get the gearbox in place too, slowly but surely we are getting somewhere. 🙂

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Thanks Phil.

So we are starting to put parts back on now! Where possible we have bought new nuts and bolts but if we can't find the correct size we have cleaned them primed and painted the original. There were many internal/external lock washer's on this truck when we were taking it apart and we are putting them back where they should be, luckily MV spares have a couple of sizes available but some of the bigger sizes were also cleaned and re used. There are also earthing straps which we will cover when we come to put those back. In case it's not clear the pics after the prop shaft ones are of the frame assembly that the cab steps sit on.

We were lucky to have the correct battery box made for us and also the toolbox. The last pics are of the battery box loosely mounted as we need to add a wooden packing spacer as the originals had to clear rivets and bolts in the chassis.

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On 12/29/2022 at 5:20 PM, Cushman 53 said:

Hi Phil, Happy New Year to you too!

Yes it was a bit of a job to get apart! The large pin that we had to clean as best as we could before removal to make it as easy as possible to knock out is obviously so the top plate can pivot from front to back on the base plate, there are two large coil springs that can't be seen from the pictures which enable the mechanism to pivot from left to right, the two wedge shaped pieces we removed are to lock the top plate once on even ground to prevent it from moving from left to right....if anyone one knows different please let us know.

One type is a fully oscillating 5th wheel and the one with only longitudinal movement is a standard 5th wheel.

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Over the last few weekends we have been busy running more airlines through, attached both air tanks and various parts. We have been cleaning parts for the shock absorber connectors, dressing dust covers, front and rear connector parts assembled and now fitted. 

Brake actuators rebuilt with new diaphragms. 

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Managed to do a few jobs...waiting for the warmer weather really! After a weekends work we finally managed to remove the eight old tires from the rims, not sure how long they had been on there but we surely needed the help of a hydraulic truck leg or we would never have got them apart. They will be sent away for blasting and new tires are on their way.

The battery tray has a special hard wood packing behind so to clear the rivets in the chassis and also to allow the cables and earthing straps to run through. Original fuel filter being stripped and ready to be cleaned and ball/knuckle zinc plated ready for assembly.

We managed last year to get most of the fifth wheel apart but had always had one pin stuck rusted in that was the last one to get out from the assembly, we wanted to get everything apart to make sure everything works as it should and to have it all blasted and then re assembled and painted. Well with many hours of heat and the persuasion of a sledge hammer we finally managed to remove the last pin. Now where's the warmer weather?

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