Ian L Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Anyone know what this Air Ministry cart was used for ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ian Vocabulary Section 42Y covers a range of trolley mounted generators & test kit. Give me a few minutes & I'll scan the variants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Below is the Section from Air Publication 1086 dated 1949. The column on the right is the relevant AP, unfortunately I have none of those. I do have AP 2173B Vol I that covers "water-cooled gasoline engines for ground equipment", so it may well have a description of just the engines themselves that were used in your trolley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian L Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 I knew I could rely on you Clive so is it postwar only ? or were these arround during the war ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ian it looks the sort of thing that would have limped through WW2 & as it continued in service certainly to 1949 is in that particular Vocabulary. I don't have any earlier ones. I did flick through "RAF Ground Support Equipment since 1918" but couldn't see anything there, although it is jolly good for the fascinating peripherals warfare in the air. (In fact I find that sort of stuff far more interesting than aeroplanes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted angus Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Here we go lads, it was used to provide electrical power to certain systems in the aircraft for ground servicing /testing etc. The one in the attached was for the radar on such types as the Mossie. Clive glad you are interested in Ground equip most people in the RAF don't give it a second look, some ground equipment now costs many tens of thousands per item but historically it is just used & abused by the guys on aircraft maintenance. When I was a shop floor monkey Ground Support Equipment was my bread & butter trade. In the book you mention there are shots of 16 MU Stafford, I was a young airman there in what was know as Section 4 ( section 4 in the RAF vocab) Workshops although we did all GSE irrespective of vocab. half our shed was 4th line on MT in the days when we had an airforce. I enjoyed the work in that shed ripping stuff to the last nut and bolt. Along with the learning at 4 S of TT it gave me the foundation for a long and happy career. TEd Edited February 21, 2013 by ted angus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 That looks like a Douglas in the picture. Also used for powering Light warning Radar sets in the Army. I have one in the collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hello Ian, as I am also very match in to Triumph bikes and I know that Triumph made a generator set for the RAF in ww2. These generators had a square cylinder and cylinder head in aluminium and these bits (head and cylinder) where used on the post-war Triumph grand prix and trophy models. Will have a look as I have a picture of a trolley with such a generator. Here you have a picture of my triumph grand prix engine with square head and cylinder and a Triumph the ww2 generator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy66 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Ian, I found the picture and it is the same small trailer, only the front towing set up is different. It has a push bar on the front as on one of the previous pictures. For the moment my scan is out al order but will tray to post you this picture. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 This is the Enfield Generator mentioned in Clives post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 And when Guy gets his Grand Pix finished. He will have the fastest generator on the track. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brown cow Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 This might be of interest to the WW2 hand cart enthusiast. An Australian made version of the Enfield generator engine from K.L. Engines & Tractors in Melbourne. Described as a 2.75 Kva alternator set for radar power supply. I was given this unit years ago and is in fairly poor condition, having sat outside for years. Even the orig wheels seem to have been replaced. Maybe hard to get tyres. I have no other info or photos as yet. regards Andrew B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted angus Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 The picture I posted of the one with the Mossie in the background was a GEE test set. TED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I was on holiday last week so didn't have any access to books. According to the September 1944 edition of A.P.1086 42Y/2 was"500w A.C. portable test set, J.A.P. 4B engine" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted angus Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I was on holiday last week so didn't have any access to books.According to the September 1944 edition of A.P.1086 42Y/2 was"500w A.C. portable test set, J.A.P. 4B engine" Do you by any chance have section 33A for that period please, I have tried Hendon and their reply was no ! TED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 This might be of interest to the WW2 hand cart enthusiast. An Australian made version of the Enfield generator engine from K.L. Engines & Tractors in Melbourne. Described as a 2.75 Kva alternator set for radar power supply.I was given this unit years ago and is in fairly poor condition, having sat outside for years. Even the orig wheels seem to have been replaced. Maybe hard to get tyres. I have no other info or photos as yet. regards Andrew B I have the manual for the British production version of this set. There is normally a full metal cover unless the Australian production version lacked this. Your version presumably also has locally produced electrical components as the UK version has an exciter mounted over the Alternator. Presumably that is yours mounted on the end of the Alternator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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