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Gustaf

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Pity about the modern car in the background of the picture. She looks great. Just the right amount of dust, a bit of wear on the canvas and she will look really original.

 

Sorry about that Tony, I will pay better attention in the future. This photo was just to show the side curtains for a friend who had asked, but now as I look at it, the red BMW in the background bugs me too.

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The photo was at a friend's "steam" event, they had two running steam engines and several old tractors, the D8 was there to enforce parking rules, I was a bit nervous as I did not park where I was supposed to, and the owner was letting kids drive the Cat right past the ambulance.

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I have been driving it on the farm to get a good used look to it, my wife wants me to wash it for the display, but I do not want it to look new as it is not a pristine renovation but made to look like one that has been in service. I did refrain from shooting a few bullet holes through it though.

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Absouletly! To clean her spotlessley would look wrong. They were vehicles built to keep men alive, not rich mens playthings. My WC54 has repairs to the bodywork, but I'd never remove and restore them, they are the marks of her service and part of her life. If you look at in service pictures the dents and missing bits are obvious. Reproduction or not, Military vehicles Honour those who served, they should look used.

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I just returned from the Utah Gun Collector's Association gun show in Ogden, Utah, there was a great reception for the Ford ambulance, lots of good feedback. After we pulled it out of the hall, I had to give rides for some time, but as most were cute girls, it was a good thing. It is amazing how many people liked the Ambulance.

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Hi Gustaf.

 

It really looks good!

 

When you built the body, what construction information did you have? Did you have drawings or did you have an original one to copy? I find that planning the job often takes longer than actually doing it!

 

Super job! What's next?

 

Steve :cheesy:

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Hey Steve,

There are no known originals to copy, my measurements came from several of the dozen or so reproductions in various museums in the US. They were built from the original drawings in the 1980s, but the drawings were lost with time. I also used period photographs and dimensions given in period writings. I had a lot of help form several people. As for what is next... I am about 20% finished with the second ambulance. I also am keeping my eyes open for a 1916 GMC 3/4 ton chassis with the thought of building a GMC ambulance (I have a friend with an original to get measurements off from).

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Gus

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Hey Steve,

I did deviate from the measurements of the museum replicas, in that my bed is about 3 inches shorter, I used several photos to get the dimensions of the bed, and the sills were left the same as those on the Baker reproductions. I had one litter that I used to make sure that It would still fit with the smaller dimensions, and everything was hunkydory until I got a couple of USMC litters. The feet on the Medical Corps litters are closer to the ends, and they will not fit in the top liter rails, although they work fine on the bed. I came to the conclusion that the measurements from the photos were not correct, until I compared different photos and found that there was some variation in the dimensions of the M1917 body. I finally found a note in the Medical Corps financial report from 1920, where it was noted that the first 2,450 bodies were designed to work with all allied litters, but it was found that the US long truck model would not fit, so later bodies were altered to accommodate them. The sills on the early ones were mated to the firewall, but on the later ones the sill were moved back about 3 inches, thereby being able to lengthen the body with out having to replace the original sills.

I do believe that there is one original body in the US, I have tracked it to Portland, Oregon in the 1970s, but from there the trail goes cold.

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Gus

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Hey Tom,

The "square on " photos do exist, there are two exceptional ones, this one helped with the dimensions and the side curtains

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The great thing about the Ford T is that it has a 100 inch wheel base, and that makes it very easy to determine scale. This photo also shows the perspective on the axles well, so scale can be adjusted as the object moves away (i.e. near edge of fender, near side of box and driver's curtain).

With some computer programs, it is possible to get good measurements off a 3/4 view as well.

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Gus

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Thanks for all of that Gus. I certainly know the problems of scaling from photographs! That square-on one is a corker and provides some very good info. Rear views are the hardest to find, I think. We built the Autocar body from a single photo which was nearer to a front view than 3/4 view. Fortunately, it is only a very simple body but we simply guessed that it would have a drop-down tailboard. Of course, once we had finished, another photo turned up showing that the back is fixed making the body a simple box. Never mind. We did try.

 

Your body is super (vehicle that is..) and makes a great addition to the Great War fleet.

 

Cheers!

 

Steve

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