Graham 100 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hello I recently aquired this jeep, I was told its a Willys Jeep but i know nothing about it. Its got a petrol engine, 2 and 4 wheel drive with high and low ratio. Does anyone know anything about it? age, type? Thanks, how do you leave pictures the add image doesnt seem to work? IMG]http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/Graham100_photo/Jeep-5.jpg[/img] http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/Graham100_photo/Jeep-4.jpg[/img] http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/Graham100_photo/Jeep-3.jpg[/img] http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/Graham100_photo/Jeep-2.jpg[/img] http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/Graham100_photo/Jeep-1.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 , how do you leave pictures the add image doesnt seem to work? Here you go.. http://www.hmvf.co.uk/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=49&topic=2575.msg19933#msg19933 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham 100 Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Thanks pics done Graham :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I would hazard a guess at a CJ5 or something very similar, it does not have the recessed headlights of an M38A1 it has an alternator by the looks, the battery is in the engine compartment when it ( TWO )should be in the firewall with access from the top just below the windscreen, best thing to do is go on http://www.m38a1.com and have a look at the pages on there, you will find a mine of information like this First Generation Vehicles: First Generation model year deliveries were from initial production in1952 through October/November 1953. Attributes of first generation deliveries included: Battery Box top securing mechanism consisting of 8 thumb screws around the perimeter of the box lid. Front Grill mounting consisting of two 45 degree hinges, one at each frame rail allowing for easy removal. Radiator was mounted to the fan shroud and front grill in a free standing position. Front Fender seams specific to the first generation deliveries. Front Bumper width of 54 1/4" at the longest point with no hole Of the First Generation deliveries, there was a subset of very early deliveries which included: Use of the shorter M38 front bumper which had the hole in the center for the hand crank of previous models. Second Generation Vehicles: The second generation deliveries began around October/November 1953, where modifications were made including: Battery Box top securing mechanism consisting of a cam-lever strap assembly. Front Grill mounting (fixed/rigid) consisting of a large bolt at the center base of the grill. Radiator was mounted to the fan shroud/grill assembly with the addition of two support rods attached to the leading edge of the firewall. Front Fender seams specific to the second generation deliveries. Continued Front Bumper width of 54 1/4" at the longest point with no hole. Here is an M38A1 [attachment deleted by admin] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 As far as I know military Jeeps (M38a1) doesn't have JEEP on the body. CJ 5 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 The very early ones did but then was stopped by the government for advertising I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I would say that this is a "NEKAF" jeep, one that was built in Dutchland under licence (I think) also it is 12 volt and has no split screen, have you got pictures of the back where you might see that the tailgate has been welded up, also show a picture of the dash instruments, is it a military dash with seperate clocks and guages or one big speedo with the fuel gauge in it, be nice to see. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I think this is a civilian model, post 1970ish. There is a "Jeep" dataplate on the bulkhead and the style of it reminds me of the American Motors era. Also note the pressings on the front wings for flashers or reflectors. Back in around 1970-1973 period, the engineering firm that I was apprentice to, took on the Jeep dealership in Ashford. This was when AMC owned Jeep, we did the basic models CJ5 and CJ7. All of those sold were right hand drive, so would guess this vehicle in question, has been privately imported. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham 100 Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 Here are some more pictures. I really dont think this jeep has be modified from LH drive to RH drive it shows no signs of this and is doesnt make sence if its still in in the Uk and has been for years as far as I know. http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/Graham100_photo/Jeep-6.jpg[/img] http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/Graham100_photo/Jeep-7.jpg[/img] Thanks to all for the help :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham 100 Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 that was meant to read RH to LH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Here are some more pictures. I really dont think this jeep has be modified from LH drive to RH drive it shows no signs of this and is doesnt make sence if its still in in the Uk and has been for years as far as I know. Graham, You may have misunderstood me regarding left hand drive. I was refering to when the firm I worked for was a main dealer, all those supplied to them were right hand drive, they would have been difficult to sell otherwise, especially as Land Rover was having strike and supply problems at that time and these were available as an alternative. In fact American Motors were making a point of comparing performance, etc with a standard Land Rover. The rhd was probably done at the factory. After seeing more pics of yours, it is, I am certain, a standard civilian CJ. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham 100 Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hello Richard Thanks, what age would it make it? do you know where the frame numer is located? I don't have a log book. Thanks Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hello Richard Thanks, what age would it make it? do you know where the frame numer is located? I don't have a log book. Graham, I would say no earlier than 1970, but no expert on these, never took too much notice of the details of them all those years ago. Did I spot a data plate on the bulkhead near the brake servo? There is definitely something there with "Jeep" on it, unless it is a warning label or something. I suggest looookig for a web forum that caters for CJ Jeeps, someone on there may be able to tell you where the chassis number should be. I have just noticed the speedo is in KPH, so assume it was not imported straight from US to here. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hi looking through `The military jeep buyers bible` it looks much like a CJ7(1976-1986) it does mention that they were converted by AMC or dealers in other countries including Australia, South africa, U.K. and some African states also available to Europe was a diesel engined version (2.4 Isuzu) 1981-1984 Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham 100 Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hello Ashley, does this mean its a military jeep then? Is it much hassle to put it on the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Going by the dash layout it is a civilian jeep as Ashley said CJ5/6, below is a picture of a my military dash. Put it on the road, it's a JEEP [attachment deleted by admin] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Hi, i am by no means an expert on these, but i read that cj 5/6/7 were used by both the civil and the military, as mark says it is a jeep put it on the road even if you decide to change the colour when you have clearly identified its original purpose :tup: Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Even if its a Civilian Jeep it could have been used in the military. The Duct government used civilian jeeps in the late 40's in Indonesia. The US gov. didn't agree with our policy there so they didn't sell military jeeps to us, so we had civilian companies buy CJ's and sell them to our army... I can imagine some country's using whatever they could get although I haven't got proof on your type actually used in a Army anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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