protacman Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Hi All , moving on from the Dodge WC51 to my next project , A Saracen APC, I need to put up outside photo's first The 1st part i need is Its a busted steering knuckle , suggestions on where i can best get Saracen spares, please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Looking forward to seeing this restoration progress mate ! One of my favourite vehicles ! Good luck with her ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Another Saracen-man, good to have you aboard, sir. And with Richard, you have just been mailed by the guru! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oily Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Ah! Another member good taste in MV's, I have copies of all maintenance and users manuals (plus a few duplicates), so can offer some help and info. I have almost finished fitting new seals in my fluid flywheel!.... Long job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted May 31, 2012 Author Share Posted May 31, 2012 Now, believe it or not ,oil seal gone in the fluid fly wheel, advice on procedure please! I am trying to strip back to the bare assembleys as we speak Got the Tank out to find an oil reserve...... But there was €150 worth of fuel in it, will power a landie to Beltring.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugly Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Hi PM Sent . I have some Saracen spares , including some steering spares - If you can email me the part number that you require and I will try to help. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 Now for Photo's of the broken parts discovered today Passenger side of steering Support on Drivers side and , as posted before, one of these. Can anyone tell me.. to do the Fluid fly wheel 1/ Remove transmission, then gearbox or 2/ Remove Engine, separate gearbox and remove again thanks for all help on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyroo Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Can anyone tell me.. to do the Fluid fly wheel 1/ Remove transmission, then gearbox or 2/ Remove Engine, separate gearbox and remove again thanks for all help on this one Hi, You will find it very hard to remove the gearbox from the engine from the back. The cross shaft that transferes the gearchange peddle operation from the lefthand side to the right hand side gose between the bell housing and the gearbox. So you only have an inch or so of movment. The splins that go into the flywheel are arround two inch long. Much better to remove the engine. Although this looks a daunting task, its quite quick. Sadly, I have done this several times with my Saracen. It will make changing the steering hydrolic cylinder a lot easyer as well. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Now for Photo's of the broken parts discovered today Passenger side of steering Support on Drivers side and , as posted before, one of these. Can anyone tell me.. to do the Fluid fly wheel 1/ Remove transmission, then gearbox or 2/ Remove Engine, separate gearbox and remove again thanks for all help on this one You do have a lot of work! Do you have the vehicle registration number for your Saracen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 You do have a lot of work! Do you have the vehicle registration number for your Saracen? Do you mean the reg no.? it's in the 2nd photo...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 My Cat .wearing a Saracen well, it made me laugh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share Posted June 9, 2012 Ok, Stripped this much, I need to know whats next? Is it safe to open hydraulic pipes? to change this broken part.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 Do you mean the reg no.?it's in the 2nd photo...... No, the number on your vehicle is probably the civilian registration number, the army vehicle registration number normally has two figures, then BA and an additional two figures as in the case below. On this plate it is referred to as the hull number. On this reply it was clarified somewhat: "96BA67 is the UK MoD registration number. I suggest you get in touch with the Tank Museum Library (http://www.tankmuseum.org/) and get hold of the history card. This will show when it was sold off, and who to." This plate is normally found under the side escape panel on the lefthand side of the vehicle, I hope yours is still there. There should also be aditional numbers which was utilised at the Alvis factory, this number could be found stamped on a variety of components and on a plate just above the rear doors, in this particular case the vehicle is Alv 721. There is also a thread somewhere on the British Vehicles forum about these elusive vehicle numbers. I will have a look for it. On the escape door latches, it would for example be, NS721 (Near side) or OS721 (Off side). This would only be true if the doors have not been swopped around with those from other vehicles. I am also busy on a Saracen register, hence my interest. Happy searching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted June 10, 2012 Author Share Posted June 10, 2012 Busy weekend, again I was told the reg on her was an RAF number... someone has been telling me porkies.... Not for the first time... Its out, thanks in part, to advice given by forum members and a 434 hiab QUESTION; How many spanners can you hide under a Saracen Engine? in this case ......... 4 ( all 1/2 inch and 7/16 ) and a screwdriver and 2 gallons of Oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Busy weekend, againI was told the reg on her was an RAF number... someone has been telling me porkies.... Not for the first time... Its out, thanks in part, to advice given by forum members and a 434 hiab QUESTION; How many spanners can you hide under a Saracen Engine? in this case ......... 4 ( all 1/2 inch and 7/16 ) and a screwdriver and 2 gallons of Oil You are making very good progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Busy weekend, againI was told the reg on her was an RAF number... someone has been telling me porkies.... No, it's an improperly displayed civilian registration mark, RFF 299. The online DVLA records show manufactured 1954, first registered 1994 although it only appears to have a 888cc engine!. I suggest you claim ownership and get it SORNed. :-) Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 Got the gearbox out In a very sad state Water had got in though missing studs in the top plate Had to make that special tool, good job i have a welder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 Special spanner to remove the lower row of studs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oily Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 'Weld' done!,.... Necessity is the mother of invention, etc, etc.... You find yourself making lots of 'special tools'.....- I speak from experience!.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 You are making good progress, keep going! Special tools! After a while you will wonder (if you suffer from old age like me), "where the heck did that work?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hi all Urgent Got the Engine in ok, Small problem, !/from the front of the compressor head there is a heavy rubber flexible pipe, about 8 inches long. It's has a metal fitting on the end, female connector. It appears to run directly towards the front of the vehicle. also i've a left over part 2/FV 121544, pipe assembley, tyre pump to filter .......Were do'es this go? Do these parts connect? HELP sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hi all Urgent Got the Engine in ok, Small problem, !/from the front of the compressor head there is a heavy rubber flexible pipe, about 8 inches long. It's has a metal fitting on the end, female connector. It appears to run directly towards the front of the vehicle. also i've a left over part 2/FV 121544, pipe assembley, tyre pump to filter .......Were do'es this go? Do these parts connect? HELP sean Sean, My memory of these vehicles is that the filter assy is up on the frame with the oil cooler, the metal pipe joins to the hose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
protacman Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Found a picture before the cleaning its the pipe running forward along the hull wall, you can see the open end.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FEC Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Got the gearbox out In a very sad state Water had got in though missing studs in the top plate Had to make that special tool, good job i have a welder. Hi Big project. Never seen a gearbox and transfer box split in situ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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