fv1609 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Ok I'll go with 7,000,000 for part A, and 21,000,000 for part B. can I phone a friend ? A was bigger than B. But it was a lot more than suggested so far. BTW this cartoning was done not only at Central Ordnance Depots but outstations in the neighbourhood. These workers were housewives, elderly men, older children & other non-mobile civilians located in schools, village halls, fire stations, barns, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Over 80 million cardboard boxes with sealed rations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 I'll go with 100,000,000 for A & 45,000,000 for B then :help: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Wow a High Roller. Can I have a second go? A = 130,000,000 B = 30,000,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Wow a High Roller. Can I have a second go? A = 130,000,000 B = 30,000,000 You're the nearest so far, but still low for both figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Clive, You just mentioned "rations", is that what these boxes are for? I got my figures from an official history of Chilwell Ordnance Depot, to quote, "during preperations for the Second Front, the packing of the MT sores to be utilised in the different phases was divided, according to their facilities, among the COD's of Chilwell, Derby, Feltham and Bicester, but all were to be centralised at Chilwell for the calling forward time, and here a fair idea of the trememndous task tackled may be judged when it is revealed that the invasion of Normandy called for 35,000,000 cartons of stores using up to 2,000,000 cases." Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Clive, You just mentioned "rations", is that what these boxes are for? No idea Richard, I suppose quite a lot of them were. My source is The Army Quarterly Vol. L No.1 April 1945 it refers to "articles cartoned" and gives a larger figure than your sorurce which refers to MT sores (stores?) :naughty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 and lets not forget, Poole the home of Ryvita still produces over 2.4 BILLION slices of Ryvita Crispbread every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Richard, Is there a book or website on the history Chilwell Depot? It is right near to where I live (I drive past it all the time) so would be interested to read a bit more about it. Sadly there is not much of it left anymore, but we do get convoys of HETs with Challenger 2s driving past every now and then. ;-) Chris Clive, You just mentioned "rations", is that what these boxes are for? I got my figures from an official history of Chilwell Ordnance Depot, to quote, "during preperations for the Second Front, the packing of the MT sores to be utilised in the different phases was divided, according to their facilities, among the COD's of Chilwell, Derby, Feltham and Bicester, but all were to be centralised at Chilwell for the calling forward time, and here a fair idea of the trememndous task tackled may be judged when it is revealed that the invasion of Normandy called for 35,000,000 cartons of stores using up to 2,000,000 cases." Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Richard, Is there a book or website on the history Chilwell Depot? It is right near to where I live (I drive past it all the time) so would be interested to read a bit more about it. Sadly there is not much of it left anymore, but we do get convoys of HETs with Challenger 2s driving past every now and then. ;-) Chris The Chilwell story: VC factory and ordnance depot by M. J Haslam (Author) Unknown Binding: 252 pages Publisher: RAOC Corps Gazette (1982) ISBN-10: 0950809209 ISBN-13: 978-0950809205 Copies here but pricey http://fr.bookbutler.com/do/bookCompare?searchFor=0950809209&amountIn=gbp&shipTo=gb&searchIn=uk&zip= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 That is the book, Lee. Bought mine back in 1982 from RAOC. The history runs from 1915 through to 1982. Interesting read. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 Listen chaps - I am the Quiz Master here and I set the questions :adminpwr: I am thinking that the cardboard box debate is a slight of hand to divert attention away from my rather hard questions :whistle: The HMVF festive trivia quiz - are you tough enough...should be changed to YOU AREN'T TOUGH ENOUGH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 YOU AREN'T TOUGH ENOUGH. Yup that's right :tup: But boxes are terribly important especially at this time of year, here is the prescribed MOD way to wrap up a present for your loved ones (or wives). Defence Standard 81-41 (Part 5)/Issue 2 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Box01-1.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Ok my final offer is; A: 140,000,000 & B: 40,000,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Hardyferret Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 OK Have studied the questions :rtfm: and after much deliberation have decided I can't answer any of them :oops: So have turned attention to But boxes are terribly important especially at this time of year, here is the prescribed MOD way to wrap up a present for your loved ones (or wives). Defence Standard 81-41 (Part 5)/Issue 2 and now am in another quandary - after wrapping, cutting and folding in the prescribed manner I find no guidance whatsoever as to the exact nature of the 'fasteng material' i should use.................. :dunno: Woe is me, it seems I shall remain undone :blush: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Ok my final offer is; A: 140,000,000 & B: 40,000,000 Still far too low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I find no guidance whatsoever as to the exact nature of the 'fasteng material' i should use.................. :dunno: "Tape, kraft paper, gummed to Defence Standard DEF 1299 or if specified, tape, pressure-sensitive (waterproof film), DEF STAN 81-47 or tape, reinforced, paper, gummed, TS 375 of 48mm minimum width." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Was there a seasonal ""Tape, kraft paper, gummed to Defence Standard DEF 1299- Christmas" ? Or did thet just press on with the same old boring stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karoshi Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Still far too low Shucks and I was being all scientific too., with packings in a carton sums. Ok so sums reworked we get: 180,000,000 and 60,000,000. Can I have my Ryvita now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Was there a seasonal ""Tape, kraft paper, gummed to Defence Standard DEF 1299- Christmas" ? Or did thet just press on with the same old boring stuff. Same old boring stuff. But if you want to slow down the opening of Christmas presents this has a sobering effect: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Radactape.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Still far too low Shucks and I was being all scientific too., with packings in a carton sums. Ok so sums reworked we get: 180,000,000 and 60,000,000. Can I have my Ryvita now ? Nope, still far too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Listen chaps - I am the Quiz Master here and I set the questions :adminpwr: I am thinking that the cardboard box debate is a slight of hand to divert attention away from my rather hard questions :whistle: The HMVF festive trivia quiz - are you tough enough...should be changed to YOU AREN'T TOUGH ENOUGH. Oh heck, I hate to see a grown man cry and it is Christmas. :-D Jack, I will have a go at Question 11,......the Korean War has never officially been declared over. Now back to the cardboard box quiz............. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddball Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Ok...........my abacus says 450,000,000 & 300,000,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Ok...........my abacus says 450,000,000 & 300,000,000 A little bit too adventuorous but it was actually 375,000,000 and 100,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 . 3. What other name is that the Japanese Kwantung Army is know by? . [Answer on a postcode...........! Oh well here goes its either Mitsubishi or Guandong? Question No.1 which war do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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