ajmac Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) Looking through the service schedule on the Loyd it is quite regular*, greasing, checking engine oil level etc. This got me thinking; what tools and service items would be carried in each vehicle, would they have carried engine oil in a can, grease gun, plugs, fan belts etc... If so, could someone post some photos of the wartime tools, cans, etc that I need to look out for at autojumbles etc... *TD13825 states: Engine - Top up daily Edited September 26, 2011 by ajmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Alastair, you need to find the stowage sketches for the specific model you are doing, i.e TT or S&C. These will list all the stowage items and show their locations in the vehicle. They will not show you what they look like however.... The British operated tanks have vehicle pamphlets that do show all the items with drawings and often photographs of each part. Many of these are the same in lots of vehicles and probably in Loyd too so it should be possible to work it out from the stowage sketch. It is surprising how much of this stuff turns up at autojumbles and is usually very cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 Thanks Adrian, I had a dig around and found a copy of the TT stowage sketch, but like you said I still don't know what anything looks like: funnel oval 6" Compressor junior no2 Jacking bar no3.mk1 Pow can 2 gallons Machete Adaptor oil funnel no1 Brass hand brush mk1 Dipstick Tools, engine, special 2spark plugs Inspection lamp Cutters, wire, folding in frog Camouflage net 25x12ft Cooker no1 Oil can, 1 gallon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Alistair, Maybe it helps comparing the listed tools and parts with those shown on this picture of CMP tools (click here for source). HTH, Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Many of those items are standard and relatively easy to find. I'll dig out my ones and take some pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I may have a spare set of wire cutters about, not in frog though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) you can find a lot of War Deparment tools on Ebay sometimes, in the Vintage tools section. Edited September 28, 2011 by Niels v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I was talking to an ex-Wartime REME Mechanic once and he said that most British vehicles only had a few of the tools they were supposed to carry. You were lucky if you had a third of the tools listed in the manual, but he was talking about soft-skin vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rippo Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 A picture of the bedford mw tool kit, not much different to the QL, As for service parts i think the mws only carried light bulbs and brake fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins kpt. Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 A picture of the bedford mw tool kit, not much different to the QL, As for service parts i think the mws only carried light bulbs and brake fluid. [ATTACH=CONFIG]51632[/ATTACH] Hi Rippo, oh, nice picture Bed MW, and tool kit! Tomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Alastair, here are some of the parts from your list. Compressor, junior no.2 is the grease gun. POW can is the standard WD 2 gallon can. Machete, also called matchett with its scabbard. These turn up with dates from the 1930s to the 1980s! Inspection lamp is the standard Lucas AFV lamp. Wire cutters. Easy to find though clean frogs are harder. The 'brass hand brush mk1' is most likely the 'Brush, hand, bass' as shown as no. 12 in the Cromwell tool picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Just a minor detail, but would the POW can be Petrol, Oil or Water? The cans are different, the water can has no writing on top. I know my WOT2 should have a 2 gall Water can on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Good point Robert, the Cromwell list calls for a water can too. They don't have the writing embossed on top but they do have the WD markings and a date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Adrian, Thanks for taking the time to snap those photos, I can keep my eyes open now. I think the easiest to find first will be a petrol can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43rdrecce Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Sorry for butting in on this one Alastair..... Adrian, what nomenclature is given to the brushes 6, 7, 8, 10 and 11 on your diagram? I have these shown in a diagram for the Daimler but they are described as 'Tank cleaning kit' and not identified individually. The parts list I have names them all with part nos but no diagram. It would be helpful if I could cross reference them! Cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Paul, 6 Brush, cleaning, tank 7 Brush, cleaning, 12" 8 Brush, cleaning, 11 1/2" 10 Brush, cleaning, 11" 11 Brush, flue, 3' 10" The latter was not bent at 90 degrees but has a semi flexible wire handle. I have no 8 and have a source for no 11 but not the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43rdrecce Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Adrian, Many thanks for that. They are identical for the Daimler and most other afvs I would imagine. It might be useful to have the stores numbers, they are using your numbers: 6 Brush Cleaning Tank Sect. K. K.E. 0858 7 Brush Cleaning 12" Sect. LV6 M.T.I.-3573 8 Brush Cleaning 11.5" Sect. LV6 M.T.I.-3571 10 Brush Cleaning 11" Sect. LV6 M.T.I.-3569 11 Brush Flue 3' 10" Sect K. K.E. 0875 12 Brush Hand Bass Sect. K. K.E.0874 I have 7,8,10 and 12. I may have duplicates I'll have a look. Amazing how hard these are to find given how many must have been made both pre, during and post WW2. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Paul, yes, same part numbers for Cromwell. I'd be interested in any duplicates you may have, none of mine are genuine WD items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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