nz2 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Images of the Chassis in NZ. Features of the rear sliding spring movement, and the design of the front axles would indicate a Halley. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Thanks for posting the pics it looks like it is a halley but is diferent to my one it all looks heavier also the wheel castings are diferent as thay have a guset joining the spocks at the base of them it could be an early model halley il try to find out more. could you send some basic measurements for me to compare to mine and also to try and find out what model you have thanks dan Edited September 19, 2011 by DAN THE STEAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz2 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I had earlier sent these photos on to Richard Preskett. He considers it to be a 6 tonner model G45 Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 Hi Doug im not sure it is a G45 the wheels are the wrong patern your front hubs look to be cast iron my chassis has brass hubs and the chanel is 5" by 2"1/2 also up to the G model the chassis should swel out after the engine yours is strait it also looks to old and heavy for a G type i know a chap that is exstreamly knolgable on halleys il ask him if halley built bigger i think thay did the other poss is that it could be a steam wagon but im not entierly convinced about that will find out for you? regards DAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz2 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 The thought this could be of steam origin has also crossed my mind. There are no noticeable points of boiler attachment and the distance between the chassis rails appears too short for a vertical boiler to be placed. The few photos about, from Ron Clark's book "Development of the English Steam Wagon" does not clearly show enough detail. Two styles of wheels are shown, none of which match the set on this chassis. The additional steel work about the rear axle is interesting as if to stop the axle twisting and sliding backwards against tensioning the chain drive. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted September 25, 2011 Author Share Posted September 25, 2011 (edited) Hi DOUG iv been looking at your pics and the two rear plates are not original there would have been a chain tentioner each side of the axle that keeps the axle centres set with the sprocket bolted to the chassis rails then the spring shoes can both slide that is a better idea than with swinging shakels that are no good for chain drives as thay adjusts the centres. so you chassis should have adjsters on your axle probably removed when the drive train was removed also the G type should have flinch plates rivited to the insides of the chanel yours doesnt seem to have them and my hubs ar threaded yours has bolts to hold them on your one sertanly is intersting im still on the thinking its a probably a larger lorry or coach chassis. Do you know any history on the chassis?? DAN Edited September 25, 2011 by DAN THE STEAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz2 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Thanks for the info Dan. This chassis is in a Museum collection about five hours away so it not a matter of running down the road to measure it up. I will ring a colleague in the area and ask if he knows of any further back ground. He showed me it some years ago as an unidentified early chassis. It is the usual thing of items coming into collections with unknown background as to manufacturer. In this case it was used as a trailer. At least is stored safely and has not found it's way to China as scrap metal. Doug:undecided: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 PICS OF PROGRESS SO FAR AND ITS GOT SMALLER pics 1.2.3 is of all of the bits and peaces and pic number 4 is of the first layer of paint on the wheels after the red oxide primer this does apear here and the on parts going to restore parts iv got before starting to make any more or thats the plan anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 Iv been working on the wheels for the halley and this is how iv got on so fargetting it done one peace at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nz2 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Dan. did you receive some photos of the Halley here in NZ. I sent these per pm earlier in the month. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 Hi Doug yes thankyou for that im trying to find out what type she is also got the chassis number thanks will let you know of my findings sorry about not replying sooner DAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 iv just done the two replacement engraved wheel plates from the not so good original one and re drilled the broken studs tapped and made new studs heres the picsDAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Today we remachined the brake drum chain sprockets as thay were badly pitted after a long time sat in one place. Thay cleaned up nicely we took out about 0.0030 inch and that seem to do the trick also striped unseized and repainted one of the chain tenchioner and started the other one. DAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redherring Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 How did you perfectly centre the object onto the faceplate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Hi as you prob know it is very hard to a badly worn peace perfictly central definatly like this as it has also got pitting and wastage and the out side is also no help so we set the drum in the lathe rougthly and then set it on the inside face to a tool face held in the tool post and kept adusting until the score mark left by the cutting tool was equel all the way around. The drums face was not round due to high and low points from the brake shoes so it did take some time to set each one if the drum was round we could have used vernier calipers off the toolpost or off the top of the carriageway to get the part true that would have been nice but we did get there in the end. i have since finished bolting the drum to the wheel using the original bolts and nuts that wernt to bad it looks good and i am pleased just need to get tyres one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 A nice looking job. i especially like the plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 A nice looking job. i especially like the plates.Hi thanks for that i realy apritiate that comment it helps im hoping to have the halley as a rolling chassis by mid next year fingers crossed. Iv just done the drawing of the dump irons to make a patern from i was going to fabracaite them but decided to get them cast and then i need to look at springs. Heres the rear springs that im now working on and one i did erlier.DAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 Today i had the shotblaster around and had the spring leafs and rear axle blasted i have since striped the axle of all the brake shoes and cams and cleaned up the bits that were missed also burnt off any greese and have now painted the primer coat on the axle so heres some pics DAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted November 14, 2011 Author Share Posted November 14, 2011 Heres some more pics of the brake shoes the cam and the L H drive sproketDAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 I have now painted the first coat of top coat one of two coats of green also painted the other front wheel in green as well. Also started to strip brake shoes and started to clean the parts up heres some pics.DAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon_M Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Looks like very aggressively used wire rope damage to me. Used hard enough it will spread mild steel just like that. I know that is the correct shade of green, looks odd to me as I never really look at anything that was made prior to olive drab becoming the norm. Keep it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 Couldnt resist putting the wheel one the axle and then the spring to see what it looks likeDAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN THE STEAM Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 HI iv been working on the rear brakes cleaning them up re lining painting ect and just fitted the first setDAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynx42 Rick Cove Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 (edited) Keep up the good work. I know just how hard it is to restore something from the ground up. Boy, are you ever lucky to have such good tyres on your wheels. My 1916 Albion A10 had all tyres rotted off and having found 2 for the rear and only one for the front, I am now searching for another to replace the remains of the other front tyre. My Albion has 720mm. dia. wheels and most tyres I have located are unsuitable in many ways. Regards Rick. Edited November 23, 2011 by lynx42 Rick Cove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 On the subject of solid tyres, had you thought of using polyurethane? We had the rears on the Dennis made up by a polyurethane specialist who also does fork truck tyres. We took the rubber off the old bands and he simply moulded the material onto them before machining a suitable profile. They were surprisingly cheap and have proved to be quite acceptable. They are a bit shiny but have dulled down very quickly and are well worth considering. You are quite right. Dan is very fortunate! Steve :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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