ajmac Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Chaps, Thanks to Hanno I am doing a little search on where and when the Loyd Carrier configured as a 4.2 motor tower was used. Where they ever used in NW Europe after D-Day? I would like some photo evidence if possible.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Oddy enough all references I can find are for Italy -the use earlier in North Africa seem to be for its use as a smoke mortar with problems getting the recently introduced HE bomb to attain its designed range. So while not conclusive although transfered from RE (chemical batts.) to RA but needs some research to prove it got used post D Day one way or the other- perhaps Alan might have something from the RA Museum about it. What's this about Cali then -should we send red cross parcels:-D Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Yeah, sorry about that Alistair! There is precious little information about this. CMHQ Report 141 notes the use of the T16 Carrier as a 4.2-in mortar carrier was peculiar to the Canadian Army in North-West Europe; in Italy the mortar was carried on a trailer towed by the Loyd Carrier. But I am sure the Bovington Tank Museum can come up with more information. HTH, Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex van de Wetering Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 If I remember correctly there is a front view of a Loyd carrier from the Wessex Division with a 10cwt Mortar trailer on tow, taken somewhere near Caen, Normandy. Sadly I can't seem an online example of the picture. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex van de Wetering Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Alistair, Also check this thread on MLU to further push you into buying that trailer http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showthread.php?p=113025 and to get a sneak peek of a Loyd with Mortar trailer on a pic taken in Tilburg, The Netherlands Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 (edited) Thanks for that chaps, there is so much hidden in the depths of the MLU! If it ends up being a TT Mortar or 6 Pdr is not really much but idle interest at the moment. Afterall it is only a little difference between the two in terms of stowage. Cali is hot and great as normal, people seem to be following the highway regulations a bit more this year.... like taking traffic lights to be more than just guide lines :undecided: Edited September 20, 2010 by ajmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Here's a picture of a Loyd Carrier towing a 10-cwt trailer: http://jtrowbridge5.smugmug.com/Alliedvehiclesinww2/Allied-ww2/15742127_KrQGM#1180184556_fd3jY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 some nice pics of what are probably GAD churchills in the fighting on the way to Munster on page 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 great pics, thanks for putting them up eddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Interesting picture of a Ford staff car on page 4. It looks like it might be the far east, possibly Singapore before it fell in 1942? Anyone help further? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Is that the picture No73 -if it is I think those pictures are North Africa -there even seems to be a Gendarme c/w a French Adrian helmet on the road side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 More gold Hanno, I don't know how you manage it! Those Churchill photos are a fine set, proper 'in the thick of it' images. Try as a might, I can't make out the WD number on that Loyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 More gold Hanno, I don't know how you manage it! My pleasure, here are a couple more Loyd pictures: http://jtrowbridge5.smugmug.com/Alliedvehiclesinww2/Allied-ww2/15742127_KrQGM#1180183744_SWRTQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo578 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Yes Hanno a really great link, I noticed the photos 23 and 24 on the http://jtrowbridge5.smugmug.com/Alli...80183744_SWRTQ pages show ammunition sledges being towed behind bulldozers maybe an early form of porpoise -possibly the same type of sledges used on the Dieppe Raid. The troops training on the beach seem to have Canadian shoulder patches in some photos and of course the old MkVIII international tanks are relavent to Canadian forces. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Those two Loyds on the beach are interesting, they are both early ones, I haven't got my ref book next to me ATM so I can't check the WD No, but the one without the hull supports, it very early, I'd say it was one of the first 200 built by Loyd. If you look at the brake drums / sprockets you can see they are flat, once production got going they were cast and look similar to the Universal Carrier type, the other Loyd on the beach has this type, and they are not many WD numbers appart.... I've never seen a photo of an early vehicle actually in the Army's hands before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 Thought you might like this.... Vivian had high hopes for his carrier: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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