robin craig Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Ok children, are you sitting comfortably. This will be jottings and pictures of some of the minor work I am trying to get done before spring in our shop on the much unloved (by others) Fox. The initial problems was that the pulley came of the generator. That span around for a few revolutions and wore down the threads on the shaft. Subsequent investigation revealed that the pulley was a fabricated item and not OEM. We had to pull the rear end of the vehicle apart to get this far as the fan volute assembly had to come out. I was full of dread and loathing as I had heard tales of doom on this job. Infact apart from breaking some wiring connections to the rear left light cluster in a clumsy move by my then assistant it went well. We have noticed that the oil cooler is flopping around and needs a strap made up to mount it which I will do. Also the original mount for the genny was again less than OEM so I will have to sort that out as we go. Please note, I am not a mechanic by trade, just logical and the poor plug who has to keep our kit rolling. This is not my primary work task but is my primary love. We only have a few short weeks to get things done in the winter as we are a going concern as a farm amongst other things. If any of you have more knowledge please do not hesitate to chime in and point out any flaws in what I am doing. If you have pictures or parts, post the pictures and let me know you have for parts and we will see if I can buy them from you. I will post some pictures with this post of the vehicle at a local parade shortly after receipt on its one and only jaunt out before the trouble started. I will take some pics in the morning. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share Posted January 21, 2010 Sorry lads and lasses, the pictures didnt load last night but they seem to be here now. No work today on the Fox as I had to go on a tank hunt, bit of a tangent, but tanks are tanks. I have posted the tank hunt in the MV Chatter as it doesnt belomg here. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Bit of a tangent but are you able to register MVs with their original plate number over there? Couldn't spot the numberplate...or did you take it off for the display? Stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 24, 2010 Author Share Posted January 24, 2010 All The vehicles in the collection except for tracked armour are fully road registered. For display or parades we remove licence plates as a matter of course. Good question. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWDTEXAS Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 I could use that one to fight road rage trafic in Toronto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 well, its a few days since I cleared the decks to get at this job, sadly it was all delayed by the "buried tank" issue that I occured and has now been solved! I have also suffered "technical" issues with uploading images, that has now been solved too, yippeee. here is a picture of the offending shaft on the generator and the knackered threads. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 And here is the view or the rear of the Fox for those who have never seen this mechanical marvel / disaster. Anyone have any pictures of theirs in this state that I could compare some of the routing for hoses etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Robin, The harness for the rear lights should disconnect from the corner bins with some screw off plugs, which make the job easier. There are plenty of photos here http://www.sirhc.co.uk/gallery - look under the Fox section. The fan drive coupling looks like one of the batch we made. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 Chris, Indeed the lighting should unscrew, the left side got caught before we could do that and broke the connector, I will show pictures later. I'm sure the drive coupling is from the btch you had made, likely you sold it to the person we bought our vehicle from. I am missing any parts pages for the installation of the generator, I have no FV parts numbers for the left or right brackets, nor do I have any parts numbers for the duct that drop down from the rear of the generator and connects sideways to the two round tubes with a flexible coupling. I am also missing any of the bracketry to hold the oil cooler on the left side of the hull to the cross beam above or to the left volute, I have the parts pages for this section. Anyone have any of these parts? R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Robin, I don't have any of those parts going spare, but I have the parts book and EMERs so I'll see if I can scan the pages. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 Thats brilliant Chris, i will post some more pictures of the mess im working with this morning. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 So here are some pictures of the butchered generator brackets that I have to either replace if anyone has them or re work so they are of a better fit and quality. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 This is all I have in my parts manual for the generator, not one page shows it, just the pulley that attaches to it at the belt. Item 35 is the duct we dont have and can only help the cooling of it as well so i will have to fabricate that also. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 These are the supports at the top from the fan assembly to the engine block, buddy didnt have one of each so he butchered one to make it an opposte hand. I think I will remake this in steel and paint accordingly. I cant see any reason to go with aluminium, can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malyutkaman Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Robin, Great pix. I always like to look at other peoples projects before I get in over my head on mine. I've got some slop in my cooling fan assy and think it's the drive coupling (#34 in your diagram). Was wondering if these are available or hard to find? Also, as long as I am going to have the back end apart might as well replace the drive belts. Since I imported my FOX back in 96 all I've had to do is replace a power steering line, so I am a little reluctant to dive into a project that may result in a summer of no driving. (of course now that I've mentioned it the next time I hit the starter it'll probably scatter parts all over the shop!) Keep us informed on the progress, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Richard, #34 is easy to get, but don't rule out problems with the bevel gearbox. We have a NOS fan drive unit fitted to ours. The first time we drove it it started rumbling, and got worse and worse. We stripped it down to reveal that it hadn't been assembled correctly. After a bit of work it's now ok! Belts are all standard commercial sizes, I did make a list of the numbers once, but they are mostly written on the belts anyway. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malyutkaman Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Chris, Thanks for the info. If I have a bad bevel box is there an overhaul manual available to properly assemble the unit? Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 All you need is in the EMERs - V664 Chapter 1. It shows you how to correctly shim it all etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 Chris, what kind of tension do I need to set up in the generator belt? I looked at your gallery, thanks for that. I'm looking for FV 723847 strap support FV 723844 strap mounting FV 724224 mounting bracket assy anyone? R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Robin, According to the user manual there is no adjustment of the belts. I know there are shims which sit between the alternator brackets and the fan housing, but can't see any instructions for how many to fit. How loose is it? We usually work to 1/2" or so deflection when pressed in the middle of the span. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 27, 2010 Author Share Posted January 27, 2010 Chris, That sounds about fair. I'm making a new bracket in place of that junk thing that we were supplied with. I guess I will make up shims accordingly. No parts around in your spares eh mate? R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Robin, I'm afraid not. We had several fan units, alternators etc but sold it all off once we had a complete set of nice bits for ours. Some of them probably ended up in your Fox though! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan turner (RIP) Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 robin I actually catalogued a series of B/W negs yesterday for RAWHS collection showing the whole backend of fox with bits in and out. Have tried to attach them to messages but system is fighting me again and I cannot getthem through. let me have a PM with email add and I'll getthem to you Alan t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Have tried to attach them to messages but system is fighting me again and I cannot getthem through. let me have a PM with email add and I'll getthem to you Alan t Please try & post here for all to see, try switching to the standard uploader if you can't get on with the enhanced one http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?16555-Forum-Bugs-2&p=184987#post184987 If you are having trouble because of error messages please report them in the Forum Bugs thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 28, 2010 Author Share Posted January 28, 2010 So, I have made a stand for the fan unit to be worked on as opposed to the storage stand that is wooden which is in the background. We never skimp on making jigs or stands. They always pay off in spades as the work is safe and if we ever have to do the job again its always in our tool crib. We make them out of odds and sods in the small scrap pile. We always prime and deburr for safety and tidyness. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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