cpltomo Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 A very sorry end for what looks like a good bit of kit. But were is this yard and has he any left i wonder. Not for the faint harted.:coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Sirhc will be able to answer your questions, it's his video.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 This is my video. I was there collecting bits for my restoration, the video was taken in 2007. There are none left. They were in the standard ex-Withams condition, missing the engine, messier dampers, optics etc. They are the ones nobody else wanted, or bid on in the tender sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpltomo Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 How did i miss that one. Just looked back at it and yes there is his name in the corner. Must learn to look with my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 You'll probably like some of my other videos too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpltomo Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 yea seen some of yours on you tube. Like the fox and sabre rebuild very nice job done on them. Cedit to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadedsun Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 My souls wales in anguish, as an banshee screameth for her lost young... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 My souls wales in anguish, as an banshee screameth for her lost young... Think you mean wail's !!!!! not the place !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 This is my video. I was there collecting bits for my restoration, the video was taken in 2007. There are none left. They were in the standard ex-Withams condition, missing the engine, messier dampers, optics etc. They are the ones nobody else wanted, or bid on in the tender sales. I can confirm that there was 1 left, still there last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadedsun Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Think you mean wail's !!!!! not the place !!!! My bad :idea: :iloveyou: I are a college stoodent. I am extreemly lernd in nowluge :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berna2vm Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 My bad :idea: :iloveyou: I are a college stoodent. I am extreemly lernd in nowluge :-D I watched Jarhead last night ,I thought it was a fictional story,fadedsun!!! I liked it though. Liked your poetry too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadedsun Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I watched Jarhead last night ,I thought it was a fictional story,fadedsun!!!I liked it though. Liked your poetry too! Jarhead is as close to the real Marine Corps as Governments are efficient. It is a fictional story. If you want a more accurate view of how things are, watch Generation Kill or Full metal jacket. As a member of the American Military, I hereby order you to watch Full metal jacket and ALL episodes of Generation Kill, back to back, no breaks...or I shall take you to the pit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathJr Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 But isn't Full Metal Jacket horrendously inaccurate and a work of fiction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadedsun Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 But isn't Full Metal Jacket horrendously inaccurate and a work of fiction? It's much closer to the how boot camp actually is. You don't see much of the fleet Marine forces, but the last 15 minutes or so was not indicative of how a squad would have worked. The sniper would have been dead in the first few minutes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathJr Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I don't doubt that at all, it's just the gear the guy's are wearing is all wrong. All the leathernecks are wearing army M56 web sets and M69 flak jackets, where as they should be wearing their M44/61 web system and the M55 flak jacket. The M41 Walker Bulldog as far as I'm aware wasn't used by the corps and the Sikorsky Choctaws were repainted Westland Wessex'. Oh well you can't have everything I suppose if your trying to pass Beckton Gasworks as downtown Hue. If you go to http://www.gustavhasford.com/ there is all sorts of stuff about the Gustav Hasford, the film and the text of Short Timers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berna2vm Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Jarhead is as close to the real Marine Corps as Governments are efficient. It is a fictional story. If you want a more accurate view of how things are, watch Generation Kill or Full metal jacket. As a member of the American Military, I hereby order you to watch Full metal jacket and ALL episodes of Generation Kill, back to back, no breaks...or I shall take you to the pit Yes,Sir yes. I will do this very thing Fadedsun sir. Incidentally,which character do you most identify yourself with in Full Metal Jacket? Everyday I am underneath a 4x4 fixing a bust transmission etc I now think of how you spend your days on the beach! Have fun, Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadedsun Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 Yes,Sir yes. I will do this very thing Fadedsun sir.Incidentally,which character do you most identify yourself with in Full Metal Jacket? Everyday I am underneath a 4x4 fixing a bust transmission etc I now think of how you spend your days on the beach! Have fun, Richard. Animal mother or Joker. My favorite weapon is the m240 golf, it's just a very, very tight squeeze inside the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berna2vm Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Fadedsun,is the M240 a derivative of the M60? Is the M60 still in service? Sgt Hartman is pretty cool,though.I like this actor he is believable in this role somehow.I would not like him for a drill instructor though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Burley Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Fadedsun,is the M240 a derivative of the M60? Is the M60 still in service?Sgt Hartman is pretty cool,though.I like this actor he is believable in this role somehow.I would not like him for a drill instructor though! The M240 is just a re-named F.N. Mag/ GPMG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadedsun Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 The M240 is just a re-named F.N. Mag/ GPMG. An GN Mag 58, quite possibly the most numerous and well-used Medium MG in the world, and a GOOD replacement to the horrible m60. Fadedsun,is the M240 a derivative of the M60? Is the M60 still in service?Sgt Hartman is pretty cool,though.I like this actor he is believable in this role somehow.I would not like him for a drill instructor though! It's an FN Mag-58 modified to US specs, but basically the same gun as your GPMG. The M240 is the finest medium machine gun in the world. The m60 is still in service with some parts of the navy and special forces. Gunnery Sergeant Hartman is rather tame in the movie, the most horrible stuff is left out. Hours spent on the quarter deck going from pushup to crunch position then back to POA back to bicycles and sun-gods...horrible times. But I got my Eagle, Globe, and Anchor and became part of an elite brotherhood of warriors..so it was worth it. I cried. I'm not an officer (yet), I'm a lance corporal.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berna2vm Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Without sounding foolish,what are the problems with the M60 as a weapon? I can hardly believe that the U.S. armed forces have just adopted a gun that has been in the British army's arsenal for nearly fifty years. Maybe our guys in defence procurement did some good work (for once). I think that we call it the L7 A2, but to most people,it is known as the 'jimpy '.It replaced the Bren gun which was in service in WW2. It must be a real honour to become part of one of the most respected fighting forces in existance. Unfortunately I am now too old to ever be a part of such an organisation and am what is referred to as an 'armchair warrior'. I sometimes wonder what might have happened if I had joined the Army when the Falklands campaign was current... I cannot begin to imagine what beastings occur while you are training.If 'Full Metal Jacket' was easy, I would fear the reality greatly. Take care, Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 M60 looks fine to me... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uApVB0kWRXg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Without sounding foolish,what are the problems with the M60 as a weapon?I can hardly believe that the U.S. armed forces have just adopted a gun that has been in the British army's arsenal for nearly fifty years. Maybe our guys in defence procurement did some good work (for once). I think that we call it the L7 A2, but to most people,it is known as the 'jimpy '.It replaced the Bren gun which was in service in WW2. It must be a real honour to become part of one of the most respected fighting forces in existance. Unfortunately I am now too old to ever be a part of such an organisation and am what is referred to as an 'armchair warrior'. I sometimes wonder what might have happened if I had joined the Army when the Falklands campaign was current... I cannot begin to imagine what beastings occur while you are training.If 'Full Metal Jacket' was easy, I would fear the reality greatly. Take care, Richard. I would not have said it replaced the Bren - known in my day as the LMG. We certainly had both weapons in the armoury in the 1970's and early Eighties. And were trained extensively on both. GPMG, for us tended more to be a vehicle mounted weapon rather than hand-lugged. although some one did get to carry it on the odd occasion. LMG was meant to add an additional bit of "punch, where required, to the SLR and SMG - but this then takes us back in to the contentious world of the unofficially "doctored" SLR that would also fire on full auto, thus removing the need for the extra weight of the LMG..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berna2vm Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Were there many doctored SLRs in existance? What was the cyclic rate of fire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fadedsun Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Without sounding foolish,what are the problems with the M60 as a weapon?I can hardly believe that the U.S. armed forces have just adopted a gun that has been in the British army's arsenal for nearly fifty years. Maybe our guys in defence procurement did some good work (for once). I think that we call it the L7 A2, but to most people,it is known as the 'jimpy '.It replaced the Bren gun which was in service in WW2. It must be a real honour to become part of one of the most respected fighting forces in existance. Unfortunately I am now too old to ever be a part of such an organisation and am what is referred to as an 'armchair warrior'. I sometimes wonder what might have happened if I had joined the Army when the Falklands campaign was current... I cannot begin to imagine what beastings occur while you are training.If 'Full Metal Jacket' was easy, I would fear the reality greatly. Take care, Richard. The m60 had almost a dozen parts that could be installed backwards and not be noticed until the weapon would not fire. Jammed frequently, had problems with the barrel changes (No carry handle on 2nd barrel), poorly designed, fragile feed system... The m60 had a poor acceptance with the USMC, thus begetting the wonderful m240 I have bad knees from boot camp due to the abuse. I'm going to be a cane-using veteran in my older years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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