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securing a replica wepon to a vehicle at shows.

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hello all.

on my Dodge WC51 I have a side mounted .30 cal replica. I am looking at trying to find a way of locking it onto the pedestal to stop some light fingered person having it away while parked up on display. I have now bolted my Gerry cans down due to someone trying to take one off at a show.

have any of you ever secured the guns to the vehicle or do you just take a chance no one will take it?

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Its not just the gun but keep an eye on your ammo as well.

I once saw a couple of lads leaning into a Jeep admiring a gun secured on the dash, one was trying to block the view whilst the other unloaded the ammo & then they were quickly away. I reported them to security who already were looking for them in relation to thefts from stalls.

I went off & found the Jeep owner to tell him what had happened & that security now had the lads detained.  I didn't even get a Thanks Mate : (

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I hadn't even thought about the ammo to be honest.

I cant belive the jeep owner didn't say thanks for letting them know.

mind you I think there are a fair few self centered people out there.  

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When not around I use motorcycle type lock chains. Nice big and obvious *** off somewhere else boy!.

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Isn't there something in site rules and or insurance about leaving them on display and unattended

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Also if I take the gun off the Dodge the only secure place to leave it is to carry it around the show all day. Hence why I am looking at trying to make it secure to leave on the Dodge. 

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14 minutes ago, squirrel_sport said:

 the only secure place to leave it is to carry it around the show all day.

and some shows forbid the carrying of firearms around the showground.

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i'm looking to making a lockable container on my vehicle/ trailer. out of sight and blending in so doesn't  stand out . Have you thought of a lock box on your flat bed?

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Good idea but If I have my kids at the event they sleep in the back of it or if it's just me then I do, so I dont really want to loose any of the space as it is only just big enough now. 

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There are plastic covered Bowden cable Alarm systems about. I think they are used on Motorbikes Etc?

I have one, It is an oval hard plastic case. With a Special Key lock, that secures a stud that is hydraulically crimped on one end of the cable.  You fit batteries inside & screw together. IF 'Someone' attempts to remove the cable from the assembly without unlocking it first. It has a very loud in built alarm that SCREAMS & gets INSTANT attention from anyone in the vicinity!...

This has the advantage of being able to tuck & bend the cable from the gun. To anywhere you can route the cable on your vehicle. To hide it & prevent visually spoiling the set up.

Unless you have wirecutters, Which you would also need to cut a chain. They are VERY strong indeed! ;)

Your .30" cal BMG would be VERY easy to secure in this way. Cable through the belt feed port on the LHS. & down through the ejection opening underneath. 

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I think it's always safest to treat to treat a de-ac or replica as though it was a live weapon and secure appropriately.

Andy

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I have now got a chain that I will cover with a tail gate or seat chain canvas cover that I can padlock to the gun and down onto the pedestal mount. Shouldn't look to bad and will be more secure than just leaving it in a storage box in the back. I have also now got a canvas cover to go over it when I am not about. 

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On 2/18/2020 at 5:20 PM, andym said:

I think it's always safest to treat to treat a de-ac or replica as though it was a live weapon and secure appropriately.

Andy

Especially if you keep it mounted , cover the trigger when in public.

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If a firearm  shotgun or airweapon is carried in a public place the rules state the trigger must be covered. On a shoulder arm , a slip obviously covers it all, on a pistol a holster. Or a canvas cover that goes over the trigger guard and action., but leaves the rest uncovered. So on a mounted Browning a canvas bag over the spade handles and around the action would work.  Don't ask me! I don't make the rules! 🤣

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You can get canvas gun covers that will cover the gun & mount.

This is the route I would take in your position. There are a LOT of Police officers who do not understand the Laws they are supposed to enforce. & in some cases that is not entirely thier own fault. If you drive along with a mounted weapon that can be clearly been seen to LOOK like a gun. They could not be blamed for pulling you over & question you. This COULD take a long time!.....As Most Officer's are not properly trained in Firearms in General. They would have to get specialist Firearms Trained Officers in to check your item out! This could cause you much Unessacary hassle, & waste time they could be more gainfully employed on.  One of the unfortunate 'things' to come out of Police manpower reduction. Is more pressure upon Officers to get things done quickly as possible. So to save them time & acting in the mode of 'Protecting the Public'. The 'Policy' that has been enacted for a long time now is:

'Arrest the individual, & sort it all out down at the station'!......Now you REALLY dont want the stress, hassle & uncertainty of THAT scenario hanging over you!.... Do You?

The BEST Policy when traveling on Public Roads / Highways is:  To completely cover the weapon. Or indeed, dismount it from its. Mounting. & stow safely in the vehicle. You can fit it back in the Mount. When you deploy at what ever show you will be attending.  Just my Opinion of course. But, isn't it better to be safe. Than Sorry?.....

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Yeah I agree.

To and from shows I will put the gun in the back with all the rest of my kit.. It will only be mounted on the vehicle at shows. 

As you said police now don't know half of what they are doing. Had one of my vehicles broken into and the police came around eventually. They were in my place and spotted some replica flint lock pistols on my wall.. Tried taking them and arresting me for owning them, even when I showed them they had solid barrels and the triggers were solid they still seemed to think they could fire a projectile!! 

But as you say from our point of view it is better to be safe than sorry. Just want to be able to display my vehicle at a show with the weapons on it so the public can actually see what they are like. 

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