REME 245 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 I have been considering purchasing a 7.5 ton winch equipped transporter to move my Carrier about. An unladen carrier weighs between 3.5 to 3.75 ton, so providing the truck itself does not weigh in excess of half its gross weight, it should be ok. Does anyone have any experience / comments on the suitability of such a truck? How much is the annual tax and testing for such a vehicle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MIKE Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 I have a 10,000lb trailer double axel, and pull my Carrier with a ford 250 pickup. Tax? in part of the world do you roam from ? Cheers Big Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 7.5 tons GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) can be taxed PLG at £165. They do need a plate not an MOT. Trouble is allowing for greatest weight of carrier at 4 tons, that only allows 3.5 tons for the rest of the vehicle, might be pushing it.Check your licence, it may be better to go the trailer way as you are allowed a train weight of 8.25 tons. Its C1+ E catergory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MIKE Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 OH Ok you lads are in England as I am in the USA, one good thing ware you guys live is you can register a tank to drive down to get ice cream on a warm sunday afternoon, Here you can't But ........ I can take out the m37. Cheers lads Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Trouble being Mike, with the price of fuel you'd have to mortgage the house, and sell the cat into slavery to buy enough to get to the shop. :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenjacket Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Hi Tony Is there a min weight for the towing vehicle. i.e. if you were towing a 7.5 tons gross trailer what constitutes a legal tow vehicle, bearing in mind most of us operate on a "granny licence" and not an HGV regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 The C1+E catagory does allow a train weight of 8.25 tons but this won't help as it only gives you a trailer weight of 750 kg gross. Your 7.5 ton truck would need to be light enough to carry the carrier and still remain under 7.5 tons. This weight also includes a full tank of fuel, crew tools etc. Most 7.5 ton beavertail type trucks are going to be around 4 tons unladen but I have seen it done. Running privately, you are unlikely to be stopped and weighed but that would be the risk you take. If you have an HGV licence, you can get a larger truck and then you have no problem. Still a plate and test and private HGV tax (is this still going?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Thanks for the replies. I do have a HGV Licence but obviously I did not want to buy anything larger than I had to. I have heard of people using trailers before, but you obviously you then have to buy and store two items of equipment. The legality in some cases is also questionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I would get a larger truck. It should be cheaper to buy, as there is less demand for over 7.5 ton in the private market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 A privatley owned HGV still has, up to now, normal road tax PLG. Ask Paul with the TM (MMVG), he should fill you in. Land Rover and Bedford did a Light weight Artic unit. Anyone know waht the sit rep is American type Swan neck hitches. they can take a hell of a weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MIKE Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u279/grenidier/Picture064-1.jpg?t=1185889007 this is my 10,000lb trailer witch I transport my carrier on . Cheers BM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Mayhem Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The problem with trailers...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG MIKE Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Thier either should have been a flashing red light on the muzzle or a Bright orange muzzle cover or a Bright red flag strapped to the barrel , seems the problem was with the driver of the pickup. My 2 cents worth, Big Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEnfield Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The problem with trailers...................... OUCH,...................like OUCH. :whistle: Bet THAT woke the pick up driver up :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowtracdave Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The problem with trailers...................... That is an example of what is known as 'Natural selection' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodge Deep Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 bit less muzzle break & a bit more "MUZZLE... BRAKE!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 A friend used to have a Bedford TK for transporting his Windsor carrier, and was within 7.5 gross. A Windsor would be bit heavier than a Universal Carrier. The TK was a 7.5 ton GVW cab / chassis, with a purpose built body, built as a skeleton with no unnecessary decking, etc. Now, modern 7.5 ton trucks are built a lot lighter than the old TK, with disc brakes, etc, eliminating heavy brake drums, so would give you a better margin for payload. A Leyland DAF 45 would be a typical choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REME 245 Posted August 1, 2007 Author Share Posted August 1, 2007 Unfortunately the newer the truck the more expensive. For my purposes I ideally need the previous owner to prove the unladen weight of the truck by putting it on a weight bridge. I assume most beavertail trucks have been converted from standard trucks and the owners would not normally know the new weight of their vehicle. I note there is a Ford Cargo version being advertised local to me. Quite what the spares backup for these vehicles is I do not know. To put a Windsor Carrier on a Bedford TK the cargo body must have been seriously lightened as you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 To put a Windsor Carrier on a Bedford TK the cargo body must have been seriously lightened as you mention. This was not an ex-army TK, they are too heavy, it was a 7.5 ton, with the 16" wheels, similar to those used for horseboxes. The body as I explained was built especially for the carrier and was skeleton construction with basically two ramps, to cut down unneccesary weight. The whole outfit loaded came within 7.5 tons, a Windsor weighing in at around 4 tons or just over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 I think if you look carefully along the barrel of the artillery piece you will see the unit did have lights , something distracted the other driver or they did not work ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 OUCH,...................like OUCH. :whistle: Bet THAT woke the pick up driver up :roll: ' I was just impressed by the size of his weapon, Officer'. Why is it when you are going round roundabouts with trailer idiots try to get inside you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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