Surveyor Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Has any one come across ion where you have a vehicle direct from the MoD, to get it registered for the first time you need an MoT. The test station has advised it will fail the MoT as it does not have a registration plate, therefore cant register it for a number plate. They suggested using display plates but feel this could lead to problems at a latter date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I had a vehicle that was unregistered & it needed an MOT before it could be registered. I have the old certificate in front of me just with chassis number. In fact there is a printed annotation "When no registration mark is exhibited on the vehicle the chassis or serial number should be shown." But that was 1988 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk3iain Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) As many will tell you, you do not need registration plates to get an MOT. You can insure usually temporarily on the chassis number and take it to the MOT station. They will issue a cert using the chassis/vin number so you can then register the vehicle. I've recently done that with a snatch Land Rover and a few other vehicles in the past. The test station need to check their facts, I am sure you can help them with that, or go somewhere else. let us know how you get on. cheers Iain ps, I wonder what they mean by Display Plates, they are usually not road legal for one reason or another and you cannot use the old MOD number, that would be an offence???. Edited May 7, 2016 by Mk3iain more bumf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I had Katy on Jersey plates, and she required an MOT before the English registration was issued. No issues, though I did use an MOT station that had experience of weird vehicles. I'd ring around the local stations till you find someone who knows what their talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 If you do not have a registration number, the procedure is to book a MoT test ensuring they note the chassis or VIN number. That way, if you get stopped by police on your way to the test, they can check with the MoT station that your journey is legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcot1751 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 As already stated your MOT station are wrong, it is perfectly acceptable (by the DVLA) to MOT a vehicle on a VIN. As long as the vehicle has a space ready for a UK number plate AND a number plate light at the rear you do not NEED a UK registration number or another countries reg number for that matter. I have MOT'd loads of vehicles on VIN alone. You actually use the VIN to insure it too, you can then drive to and from the testing station with no plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 As many will tell you, you do not need registration plates to get an MOT. You can insure usually temporarily on the chassis number and take it to the MOT station. They will issue a cert using the chassis/vin number so you can then register the vehicle. I've recently done that with a snatch Land Rover and a few other vehicles in the past. The test station need to check their facts, I am sure you can help them with that, or go somewhere else. let us know how you get on. cheers Iain ps, I wonder what they mean by Display Plates, they are usually not road legal for one reason or another and you cannot use the old MOD number, that would be an offence???. This was my understanding from the DVLA but was told after their offices shut so I couldn't check, well off again to try for the MoT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 I had Katy on Jersey plates, and she required an MOT before the English registration was issued. No issues, though I did use an MOT station that had experience of weird vehicles. I'd ring around the local stations till you find someone who knows what their talking about. Tony, my understanding is if it has a civie plate no matter what country there is no issue because it has been registered, the issue here is technically it is not registered with the DVLA as a civilian vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Tony, my understanding is if it has a civie plate no matter what country there is no issue because it has been registered, the issue here is technically it is not registered with the DVLA as a civilian vehicle Go to this government website for MoT testers, item 3 is what you are asking. The tester obviously does not know the procedure; https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/5-things-our-customers-ask-us-about-mot/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 Go to this government website for MoT testers, item 3 is what you are asking. The tester obviously does not know the procedure;https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/5-things-our-customers-ask-us-about-mot/ Do you know this is why I like the forum, I have spent days trying to find this reference. Many thanks, printing it off now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Do you know this is why I like the forum, I have spent days trying to find this reference.Many thanks, printing it off now It took less than a minute to find it! Google is my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1212 Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 It took less than a minute to find it! Google is my friend The key of course is either knowing or a lucky guess with the word(s) to put into the search. In the early days of my current job a colleague and myself were trying to trace an obscure electrical connector. Another engineer came along and simply put in Hexagonal Connector. Within the first page of results was the link to a well known suppliers US website and the part could be ordered through the UK website for a nominal charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 The key of course is either knowing or a lucky guess with the word(s) to put into the search. In the early days of my current job a colleague and myself were trying to trace an obscure electrical connector. Another engineer came along and simply put in Hexagonal Connector. Within the first page of results was the link to a well known suppliers US website and the part could be ordered through the UK website for a nominal charge. Just used the phrase 'MoT testing unregistered vehicle' and up it popped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 The Land Rover is down for the MoT, it appears they didn't want to register it with out a number plate because its more difficult to get it registered with the DVLA. They still wanted me to get display plates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk3iain Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 They still wanted me to get display plates Shocking ! Will they then drive it to/from the test station and take the points and fine for displaying false plates? Good luck with the test and registration, it should be painless. Cheers Iain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The Land Rover is down for the MoT, it appears they didn't want to register it with out a number plate because its more difficult to get it registered with the DVLA.They still wanted me to get display plates Did you show them a copy of web page (link I sent you) ? That is a website for testers to ask questions, your question was there with an answer. They should do it, no question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwardle Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The Land Rover is down for the MoT, it appears they didn't want to register it with out a number plate because its more difficult to get it registered with the DVLA.They still wanted me to get display plates Isn't there another testing station that you could use, with a tester that knows the rules? I have to travel to Midsomer Norton to get my Leyland Daf tested, a round trip of 33 miles, as it is the only place that I can find locally that is big enough to take it. As far as I am aware, as long as you have a booking for an MoT test and the vehicle is insured then you can drive a reasonable distance to the test centre. You do not have to use the one nearest to you. I personally would steer clear of any 'chain' MoT centres e.g. tyre services or 'service centres' as I had a very bad experience at one of these years ago, they failed my XJ6 and quoted £1,000 for repairs to things that didn't need doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Did you show them a copy of web page (link I sent you) ? That is a website for testers to ask questions, your question was there with an answer. They should do it, no question. Had the sheet printed off they still weren't happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 They are happy to test, however we have now come up with another issue where I need to contact Land Rover, date of going into service is on the sheet but there is no evidence of date of manufacture, contacted DVLA and DVSA but no luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk3iain Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 They are happy to test, however we have now come up with another issue where I need to contact Land Rover, date of going into service is on the sheet but there is no evidence of date of manufacture, contacted DVLA and DVSA but no luck They are looking for issues! The release docs should be enough, they are for DVLA. I would bin these guys and go somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 Every one, thanks for the help, I would also like to thank the lady at Land Rover who looked up the date when the vehicle departed from the factory, in this case it was the date of the manufacture. The MoT passed second time as they were unfamiliar with the lighting system on an MoD land rover. The documents are off to the DVLA for registration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1212 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 ......... I personally would steer clear of any 'chain' MoT centres e.g. tyre services or 'service centres' as I had a very bad experience at one of these years ago, they failed my XJ6 and quoted £1,000 for repairs to things that didn't need doing. Yep been there back about 1990 - told I needed new brake pads, discs, drums, shoes & wheel cylinders when all that was actually needed was one cylinder. A friend had a similar experience when they first moved to the area with a MOT failure every year. Once they switched to a local 3-man band garage that I also used on their recommendation after the 1-man band I used retired they never had another failure. I had just one failure known in advance of a split CV joint boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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