tankdriver Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 I have a M5 3" anti tank gun being restored. I want to put new tires on it but the tires are foam filled, and the tires will have to be cut off. This will be VERY expensive to do. Like a grand. So I thought I'd just replace the rims, but not sure what they used. Here is a shot of the rim. Is this a CCKW rim? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Pretty certain that is a DUKW rim. 18" tyre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 No, I'm wrong. Similar style, but your gun rim has a greater offset than the DUKW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Don't DUKW rims have 12 stud holes? The M5 3" gun uses 9.00-20 tyres so they are likely to be half track or M8 wheels. There are two different offsets available, M3A1 scout car and halftrack having a shallower offset than the M8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TooTallMike Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 ...I want to put new tires on it but the tires are foam filled, and the tires will have to be cut off. This will be VERY expensive to do. Like a grand. Why would it cost that much? Surely the tyres can just be cut off with a 9" grinder? - MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Don't DUKW rims have 12 stud holes?…... Well ok yes that's all very well - but apparently you don't need to use them all :-D:cool2::shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankdriver Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Why would it cost that much? Surely the tyres can just be cut off with a 9" grinder? - MG Well, it is a restorer. They had to do this to a 37mm tire and it took 2 guys over a day to cut the tire off of the 37mm rim. He says the 3" tire and rim weighs over 200 lbs, so he is figuring 2 to 3 guys to handle it and 2 days labor. Adds up quick. He's a good guy, but it is a business and he has to make money. He is doing the tires by the hour, but the grand was for both tires, new tires, new tubes, and having the local farm tractor company mounting the new tires on, which gave him a price of 165.00 for that. They refused to touch the tires on there at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Guess that is U.S. dollars, i.e. £650 for 2 = £325 each, and as that is with new tires/tubes fitted (say £120 - 150 tyre £20 tube £55 fitting) then the balance of £100 - 130 per wheel seems a very sensible estimate to get the old ones off. If you buy a couple of rims and get them freighted to you (say £50 + 25 freight each) you're looking at potential saving of around £25 - 55 per wheel? Edited February 5, 2015 by N.O.S. can't do sums!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Just burn the tyres off! :nut: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankdriver Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Just burn the tyres off! :nut: He tried that one time. Fire Dept showed up, put it out, and wrote him a ticket...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadline Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Getting places to handle spit rim tires is really hard. Most will not, and the ones that do will charge you. A certified inflation cage is expensive, and if a rim lets go the cage will be damaged. Look at some youtube videos of split rims exploding... definitely not worth a few dollars profit from a one time sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankdriver Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 They cut the tire open, no foam, but they removed all the bolts out of the ring and can not get it off. It is locked on for some reason, rust or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Being combat tyres, they may have bead locking rings fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 pounder Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Well ok yes that's all very well - but apparently you don't need to use them all :-D:cool2::shocked: [ATTACH=CONFIG]101285[/ATTACH] That's a French rim fitted on the DUKW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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