weasel_nut Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Beautiful trailer N.O.S. I am sure the neighbors love you! Attached are a couple of pictures of the same type of trailer in use at the Poltava Russia airfield during Operation Frantic Joe (15th AAF shuttle raid June 2, 1944). My Dad piloted a B-17 on that mission. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) Beautiful trailer N.O.S. Well, the easy option would be to put some gaiters and air in the tyres, spray all over with protective varnish and tie down a few flapping bits - voila, an "as found" tanker :-D Only kidding.... Thanks very much for the photos, Bill - I'm collecting copies of what few pics have appeared in books and on the web, and am currently trawling BG Association sites to see what else there is hidden away. Unfortunately most of the pics do not show much detail. Your pictures show how an interesting use of the second trailer - each tank held 4,000 gallons, and if a B17 held 2,500 then the tankers used without trailers must have done a lot of trips, couldn't even fill two planes up at a time. I've not seen evidence that second trailers and dollies were used in England. Anyone else with pics, do please join in! :tup:: abn deuce, 4,000 gallons capacity. There are 2 compartments - 1 the shallow front and tapered section, 2 the main tank. Bafle plates (almost entirely across) at each tank support (bands) through which someone has neatly gas-axed some doorways. The lids (one for each tank) are a work of art - just look at the quadrant gearing on the locking bars. The lid surround neatly unclips with 4 levers to allow access. Bet you wish you hadn't asked now :cool2: Edited September 27, 2008 by N.O.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 If you PM me your email address, I have a photo I can send you from the 100th BG, with two guys on top of the tanker filling it at the base fuelling station. The picture is copyright, so I can't post it here. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Could just leave it to rust a few years and stick something with a longer bonnet on the front. :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Great film Duel !:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Could just leave it to rust a few years and stick something with a longer bonnet on the front. :evil: I thought of this film too - is the tanker the same as N.O.S's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I thought of this film too - is the tanker the same as N.O.S's? Don't think so Jack. The Duel one is all faired in around the wheels and over the delivery pipes. No side ladder on the Duel one either and the rear locker is not present. But one old Amercian tanker looks like another at first glance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 If you PM me your email address, I have a photo I can send you Steve :tup:: Very useful! And the other one from 100BG.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Quite the opposite the details are great any others you like to mention please post them as I dont know when or if I ll ever get the chance to climb over and around one in real life . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M5Clive Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 (edited) Look what I stumbled across boys when I was watching a video of the B-17 flight at Bentwaters in July. Its original colour archive film of the 78th Fighter Group at Duxford in WWII, but stick with in and see what vehicles make an appearance at the end - especially at time 5.48. This truly is amazingly rare film. Not only is it obvious that is it Duxford, easily recognised by the hangars, some of which still remain today, but how often do USAAF Military vehicles ever feature (in any great numbers) on WWII colour film footage. I would love to get hold of the original film, get it tidied-up, digitally enhanced and be able to see all the unit markings that are stencilled onto the vehicle bumpers. Interesting to see that all the Dodge Weapons Carriers and Command Car's are the non-winch varieties, something I have long believed to be true, as I have yet to see any photographs taken on 8th AF bases showing Command Car's with winches, which is why when I was looking for a Command Car, I made sure mine was the WC-56 - shown below! http://www.vimeo.com/1712518 Edited September 29, 2008 by M5Clive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 (edited) Re. Clive's video footage link - this site is regarded by my pc security suite as being in the same league as multimap and hmvftv, i.e. I can't see it :argh:. Tried all sorts, still nothing. What am I missing out on please? Is it what I think it is? :cool2: Edited September 29, 2008 by N.O.S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Cubed Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Great pictures Paul. As you can see from those excellent pictures, those rigs really were big for there day - In fact they are big by today's standards as well. Cds So if they are still a big rig by today's tankers what would they carry Gallons wise as compared to a modern road artic tanker ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 My books say 4000 US gallons. A B-17 or B-24 took 2500 gallons, so one tanker could fill one and a half bombers! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 As a rough guide, the U.S. WW2 trailer is 4,000 gallons i.e. 18,000 odd litres or about 18 tonnes of fuel. (Plus a tonne and a half of pumps, engine and hose reels). A modern trailer would have a payload of some 26 tonnes or 26,000 lires or 5,700 odd gallons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Re. Clive's video footage link - this site is regarded by my pc security suite as being in the same league as multimap and hmvftv, i.e. I can't see it :argh:. Tried all sorts, still nothing. What am I missing out on please? Is it what I think it is? :cool2: Have you seen it,its remarkable footage,i like his other stuff as well.You need a thing called electrickery for your pc,its no good keep feeding it coal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Thanks for posting Clive.i love the closing shot on his spit video.cheers CW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 That is some great footage Clive! N.O.S. - get your firewall sorted......you are missing out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Nice wartime colour shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Brilliant pic, Les! Can you tell me where it came from please? Keep them coming folks, big thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M5Clive Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 That colour pic is absolutely excellent - there is enough material on this thread for a book in its own right! I can see a trip up to Norfolk shortly to inspect this wagon-train NOS........! I'm really excited about this project - It really is going to be something truly unique - All credit to you for taking it on and to the contributors of this thread that have provided such a wealth of information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Feeling left out now aint got no pictures:cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Bit like Clive on this one cant wait to see the end result and Norfolksnot a million miles from me, if you look on the bottom right corner of the photo you will see the contact web site lots of photos on it mostly navy so it takes time to find things meantime another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 One from me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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P Marriott Posted October 1, 2008 Author Share Posted October 1, 2008 (edited) Hi there Is this the fuel bowser that was advertised for sale in one of the classic commercial magazines a few years back?? It will certainly be a show stopper being towed by the Autocar. These are amazing trailers and were commonplace on all USAAF bomber bases during the war. There is a 4000 gallon bowser being restored somewhere in France, I did have a website address for it. I will try to find it and post it. So who is going to restore a Federal F1 tractor unit and a 2000 gallon bowser?? Army cars USA recently had a 2000 gallon bowser for sale at $6000 that was in excellant shape just needing a paint job. Edited October 3, 2008 by P Marriott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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