richardrosser Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 the above is a basic guide before i get shot down in flames as i said its a basic guide and we are planing to use a tracked machine on the day not an AVF :whistle: :tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 This is where I need some clarification, if we higher a mini digger.....it would be the same test as if we were to do it in a tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 unless some one wants to "lend" us one for the day :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 should be Jack Cat H = "track laying vehicle" :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Bear in mind that some of us are just a little too large fit in a CVR(T) etc. A 432 on the other hand..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Bear in mind that some of us are just a little too large fit in a CVR(T) etc. Neil, So how come you are contemplating a Samaritan then :? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 This is where I need some clarification, if we higher a mini digger.....it would be the same test as if we were to do it in a tank? Below is the minimum standards for a test vehicle, I can see a problem with insurance if we hire in a digger for the test. If we hired a digger how would we fill in the hire form so that it showed that all of us were insured, normally to hire a vehicle you have to have a Full licence for that class of vehicle.. also the same problem if we had a MV on loan to us.. the Insurance would have to show everyones name with provisional licence entitlement.. :dunno: http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/vehicleowners/specialistvehicles/specialistvehicleclassification.htm Specialist vehicle classificationThree or four-wheeled light vehicles - category B1 Agricultural tractors - category F Road rollers - category G Track laying vehicles steered by their tracks - category H Mowing machines or pedestrian-controlled vehicles - category K Specialist test vehicles Unsuitable vehicles The condition of your vehicle Types of Specialist Vehicles The following vehicles are classified as specialist vehicles. Three or four-wheeled light vehicles - category B1 Motor tricycles or quadricycles in category B1 have: three or four wheels a design speed greater than 50 km per hour an unladen weight of no more than 550 kg These vehicles may be designed as a small car with car-type controls or a motorcycle with motorcycle-type controls. You must be 17 years old to use a vehicle in this category. Agricultural tractors - category F Agricultural or forestry tractors: have two or more axles are constructed for use as a tractor for work off the road in connection with agriculture or forestry If you want to drive tractors on public roads you must be at least 16 years old. At 16 you are restricted to a tractor which is no more than 2.45 metres wide and only driving on the road when travelling to and from a driving test appointment until you’ve passed your category F driving test. If you are driving a category F vehicle in Northern Ireland you may also drive at 16, when engaged in the course of agricultural operations, on any road which is not a road where the maximum speed limit under Article 50 of the Order is 30 miles per hour or less. At 17 years old you can drive any tractor and you can drive unaccompanied on the road displaying L plates, or D plates in Wales. Road rollers - category G Before you can apply for a provisional licence for a category G you must have passed a test for a vehicle in category B. At 17 years old you can drive a road roller: with metal rollers weighing less than 11.69 tonnes unladen which isn’t steam propelled At 21 years old you can drive other road rollers. These include rollers: which have pneumatic, resilient or elastic tyres that weigh more than 11.69 tonnes unladen that are steam propelled Track laying vehicles steered by their tracks - category H Before you can apply for a provisional licence for a category H you must have passed a test for a vehicle in category B. You must be at least 21 years old to drive these vehicles. Mowing machines or pedestrian-controlled vehicles - category K Mowing machines are specialist, ride-on, grass-cutting vehicles with permanent cutting equipment. A pedestrian-controlled vehicle is a powered vehicle where the operator walks with the vehicle, and does not ride on it. This vehicle is not treated as a motor vehicle, so you will not need a driving licence to use one. You must be 16 years old to drive these vehicles. Specialist test vehicles It is your responsibility to make sure that the vehicle you are going to use for your practical test is legally roadworthy and has a current MOT certificate (if required). The vehicle must be fully covered for use on the test and for you to drive. Your examiner will ask you to sign a declaration that your insurance is in order. The test won’t be conducted if you can’t do so. Your vehicle should also display: a valid tax disc L plates displayed to the front and rear (or D plates in Wales if you want) L plates should not be displayed: on any windscreen or back window where they could obstruct your view where they will cover any lights or indicators If you do not comply with these rules your test may be cancelled and you could lose your fee. Unsuitable vehicles Your examiner will check that your vehicle is suitable on a practical driving test. The test cannot be conducted if the vehicle: is operating on trade plates does not display a valid tax disc is carrying any loose items which could fall off has damaged lights or indicators has broken or missing mirrors is carrying any load could be a danger to other road users due to damage is fitted with an item of equipment which may cause a danger to other road users has such a poor view that you need another person to help when carrying out manoeuvres or at junctions is in category B1, where the examiner travels in the vehicle but he or she can’t see clearly behind The condition of your vehicle Your vehicle must: have clean number plates and lights not be carrying a load, or be partly loaded not be towing a trailer not drop mud or any debris on the road Your vehicle must also be mechanically sound. All equipment required by law must be fitted and working correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Andyroo done it with his friend see below Hi all, I took my class H with a friend of mine in June last year. It was quite straightforward. Contacted the DVLA though their phone system, which has no button to press for class H test, so I got though to the car testing department. Told the gent what I wanted to do and he sorted it all out there and then. You pay by credit card up front. They come to you, so you have to inform them where you would like to meet them. We met at a pub car park in Little Eaton. Anyway, a confirmation form came though the post a few days later with the date and time, which we’d, agreed upon. The test is common since. It should be done from the side of the road, however, the examiner asked if he could check what the visibility was like in the commanders position ( sorry, I forgot to mention we took in my CVR(T) Striker ). He said he was happy to stand on the seat and conduct the test on the road. The root was around 3 miles, Turn left out of carpark onto road. Pull up by the side of road and set off again. Turn left onto another road, pull up by the side of the road, stop, set off again. Emergency stop. Reverse left turn into a 'T' junction. Driving took approx 20 minutes. Then 3 or 4 questions on high way code and two questions on the operation of the vehicle. I was expecting questions on track tension, manoeuvring and such, but he asked me where was the dipstick and to operate the left indicator and check they were working. Dead easy. Cost of test was £43.00 each. Carl, however very nearly couldn't take his as his photo ID - passport went out of date the day before, he was VERY lucky the examiner was in a good mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Andyroo done it with his friend see below Hi all, I took my class H with a friend of mine in June last year. Yes Mark read that but that was just two people, what I am saying is if we have a large amount of people how we going to get round the Insurance part?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Degsy Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 If you intend hiring a mini digger although they are very easy to drive they are not usually road registered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Yes Mark read that but that was just two people, what I am saying is if we have a large amount of people how we going to get round the Insurance part?? Surely its the same with two people or 15 people, normally only one person is insured but if it's on private land then insurance is negated to a certain extent :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Surely its the same with two people or 15 people, normally only one person is insured but if it's on private land then insurance is negated to a certain extent :dunno: Yes but the test is taken on the road, isn't it :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 :dunno: Well they are saying it's got to be taxed, insured & MOT'd if it needs one so would imagine that it would be a test on the road. I know the others offering tracked test do the test on the road even though they have acres of off road land they use for training.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Grosvenor Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Well a chap I know who has vintage tracked tractors said he took his H licence in his field and it basically involved maneuvering around some cones. Nothing was done on the road at all. So I dunno :dunno: Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Ok folks, I will make a call this week to the relevant authority so we are arm fully with the facts otherwise we will only go around in circles................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Neil, So how come you are contemplating a Samaritan then :? :-) It's about the only one - other than maybe the Sultan - that is suitable. And no one seems too interested in Ambulances... I've been talking to Lee and it would seem that at 6' tall and 19.5 stone in weight I'm oversize for the Sabre, Samaritan, Scimitar and Scorpion. Not sure about the Spartan.... Other than that it's a 432 or something Soviet if I'm staying with PW era. Good point on insurace there Lee, be interesting to see what the DVLA tell Jack as to what can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Ok folks, I will make a call this week to the relevant authority so we are arm fully with the facts otherwise we will only go around in circles................ Is there a joke in there somewhere :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardyferret Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Jack, my wife am I are interested, surely it would be worth contacting tank museam on poss hire ?? Hardyferret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 He has gone to bed .......................bless him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardyferret Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 CHORUS.. And oh what a good boy he is! and all what a good boy he is not to be sung in the car parks of Dover or in the company of the senior service!! :schocked: Hardyferret :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 what about mr hardyferret!! he is still up :-o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardrosser Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 hang on...is Jack.....ex....RN..... :? :-o :dunno: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Jack, my wife am I are interested, surely it would be worth contacting tank museam on poss hire ?? Hardyferret Oooh - can't you just see it - taking the test in a Tiger 1 or similar :schocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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